Why would they limit themselves to a list where almost every stadium on it is no longer an opinion. I'm just saying it's no as simple as saying any replacement for Casement will be the biggest/one of the best stadium currently not being used. There would be different conditions when selecting one stadium given the context of the 9 already selected stadiums.
Unless the sole criteria is "What people in Cork want", there is absolutely 0% chance of Páirc Uí Chaoimh being chosen to host games at EURO 2028.
Shane Coleman looking for a Muncipal stadium for Louth for GAA & Soccer
I see DCC are calling for State Funding for Dalymount as it is community stadium for that part of Dublin. Will St Brendans be able to use it for games?
PuC is a solid GAA stadium, but its absolutely not up to hosting a Euros game.
A Soccer pitch is not big enough for GAA games.
PUC looked decent with a soccer pitch
Look how far away from the pitch the people behind the goals are though.
There are way worse stadiums in soccer in that regard.
Outside of obvious things like having to sort out the terraces many GAA stadia fall way behind in corporate facilities and more importantly security infrastructure around the stadium. Another issue is the need to put in whole new levels of media facilities and seating.
PuC would do absolutely fine as a stadium in a top soccer league (it's better than some Premier League grounds) but it's not going to impress UEFA who get to pick from the best of the best for these tournaments. And by 2028 that standard will only have risen again.
So build the stadium with a pitch that is big enough and adjust depending on who's playing.
Not easy with an already tiny land locked stadium.
The GAA will just have to get the fuk over it and certain GAA fans stop playing the victim like with Tallaght . Loads of "community" places are only built for certain things.
No certainly wouldn't work for city stadiums. But I am talking more about having combined municipal projects for country teams. So for example if one was done in Wexford no reason not to make it a combined municipal stadium to be used by the GAA and soccer IMHO as that way we could all have a better facility to enjoy and use. Rather then splitting money on separate projects.
British Ambassador on Drivetime didn't seem to see any problems with Casement being built.
The municipal stadiums is the way to go. The most obvious one is the Gaelic Grounds in Limerick being the main GAA stadium for Clare and Limerick
I agree on shared stadiums but not Dalymount as was suggested by another poster.
Shared stadiums also only work in areas where the teams have very similar attendances which is rare in Ireland.
Ide say he knows about as much as us to be honest.
No question a shared stadium for an inner city one like Dalymount would not work totally agree. Not sure I would agree with the shared attendances. If one sport has significantly lower or higher attendances then the other you simply open or close the relevant portion of the stadium as needed depending on who's playing.
I wouldn't agree about just closing parts of the stadium. I regularly go to football in the Gaelic Grounds or club hurling and it's not great. Limerick FC in Thomond Park sucked too.
It's fine when necessary but I would want my club signing up for that full time.
I guess we will agree to disagree on that one so. For me its a case of pooling money so we can have the best facilities possible rather then inferior facilities split among multiple separate stadiums. I would add in fairness the attendances at LOI matches have improved superbly in recent seasons and that's despite the utterly antiquated and semi-derelict state of most LOI grounds. Give families a proper municipal stadium and attendances would likely increase even more.
There are definitely some good cases for joining up. Parnell Park could be replaced as Dublin's "home" ground and have them go in with a LOI team and or Leinster.
Musgrave Park, Parc I Rinn and Turner's Cross are all very similar grounds that could be one good one.
It doesn't work in Limerick where all 3 are at very different levels.
I think it's very much case by case.
If only the organisations had finances for a huge multiuse Stadium with sliding pitch (like in Spurs new stadium). Built in a way that there is options of putting seats in for Soccer & Rugby but removing them for GAA because of bigger/wider pitch
Problem is 99% of the time it will be the GAA that need the bigger capacity.
BC stadium Canadian Football stadium has a tarp roof that covers the top tier for soccer matches which could be a thing.
If Casement could be designed with an inflatable roof of some sort then it would be a game changer.
Thats fair and I would agree there is no one size fits all solution. Overall though I favour and think it would be in everyone's best interest to have combined municipal stadiums as much as possible.
Having a stadium that Dublin GAA and Leinster could play in plus maybe a LOI team (St Pats) maybe is a good shout.
That pitch size that was marked out for the Liam Miller game was bigger than regulation for a tournament like the Euros.
Multiuse municipal stadiums in Ireland are pretty much a fantasy. Too much political wranglings and lack of cooperation between the main sports organisations in this country. Plus finances would always be a problem as the government would need to pretty much fully fund multiple stadiums around the country. Not going to happen.
Musgrave Park is more than just a pitch with a couple of stands, Munster Rugby has invested a lot in developing facilities there for both professional and amateur teams. They also get income from naming rights and Cork fans already get the thin end of the wedge in terms of games, those season ticket sales would likely drop off a cliff if they had to sit way back from the pitch while watching their team against URC cannon fodder.
Cork City and their fans also wouldn't give up Turner's Cross to sit further from the action. It would make no sense at all for either, they can't sell as they still need their own facilities but would have to pay or somehow buy in to the other stadium. It doesn't even work Cork, it certainly won't work elsewhere where the requirements of the various sports are even more different.
These facilities are used for far more than just the high profile professional/senior games so the existing facilities can't be dispensed with. Building something new which accommodates everyone will cost a lot more than improving existing facilities, not to mention imposing compromises on everyone.
Thats the other thing. The idea only works if all involved parties are in desperate need of a new stadium which is what scuppered the national stadium in the 80s
There are wildly different geographic based fanbases for St Pats and Leinster rugby. Never mind Dublin GAA
You can’t just build/develop a stadium and say “use that”
As well as demographics
The suggestion was have a municipal stadium that Dublin GAA and Leinster could both use and here's the key word "maybe" a LOI team. Exactly where you would put a stadium and exactly who would use it would all have to be taken into account. If we want the best quality stadiums and facilities we can have in Ireland we need as much as possible to look at the municipal combined usage route as otherwise if we continue to go piece meal and everyone for themselves we will continue to have what we currently do in Ireland sub standard sports facilities for the most part. As someone involved in sports myself I am biased in wanting to see the best for sports facilities in Ireland but it is also true that there are economic benefits to the country and local economies by having better quality facilities.
Where joined up thinking is really lacking is club level. You will have one sports club with full changing rooms and another across the road togging out in their cars.
Or 2 clubs paying maintenance and insurance on 2 sets of facilities in the same suburb or village.
Would be nice to see the government set up smaller regional versions of sports campus Ireland. Provide offices, storage and changing facilities for some of the really sh@t on sports in Ireland.
