And why should they sell cheap ….in calf heifers at 800/1000 euro are loss making ….14/1500 needed to cover cost minimum
Milk price effectively halved because of a 2% increase in supply and decrease in demand, the heifer market isn't any different and theirs a host of factors that alone would hammer price this year on their own let alone combined , beef value is all alot of dairy stock are worth now unless their exceptional well bred animals which of course will command a premium
No experience of flecks. But they seem to have the capacity for big volume yields. Some people say there's a temperament issue when training in crossbreds.
There's an organic farmer not far from me has gone flecks for a few years. So he's milking second calvers now. And he's gone crossing those now with brown Swiss. His aim is a three way cross I believe. Whether that'll be Norwegian Red or freisian again for the third cross is another thing.
You can't kill hybrid vigor.
Ebi thing is promoted here too as the ai companies want bull replacement sires for national and international business.
The same would be said of breeders and ai companies in Austria of flecks, and Austria, Switzerland of Brown Swiss.
Supply and demand, what's the export market like?
If that was even near to what they’ll actually make I think it would be time to cut the passengers and restock with quality stock, but can’t see them going that low.
Heifers for €800? Fill your boots time I’d have thought for the regulars that pass their days on here being bitter about dairy farmers.
That's what happens or else export
The high ebi seem to be the route to go according to most people
I’ve no experience with them but I would prefer the high ebi type Friesan
those flechs are heavy and would eat a lot more for the same amount of milk solids
I thought you were a big boy farmer ? Sure this will suit you ?
Whats people experience of fleckvieh cows?..are they worth looking into or is the EBI type the way to go as a start up herd
Would ye not prefer to buy calved heifers next spring if there’s going to be a glut of dairy stock about, don’t have the cost of wintering them but granted you’d probably have to pay a bit extra and get no calf off them but you don’t know what you have with a heifer until she’s calved?
The government is looking after the big boys again 70 percent grant for anyone who will have contract to import slurry.Lets be honest with all the red tape to get the money only the big will apply grants for underpass sure 50 cows farmers wont apply.
Don't think it's an option as they are in calf longer than 5 months now. Estrumate is for up to about 100 days. Options are limited
Yeah lets start a trend like the bull calves dont give them to anyone cheap incase they make money on them lets slaughter them.Alot of incalf heifers wud struggle to make 8 in factory.Better of selling now theres a winter ahead of these heifers.
Go try and buy some or ring a farmer up they wont sell cheap.Pick there worst heifers out all u hear is what it cost to rear them if thats the buyers problem
Better off sending them to the factory. If that is the price they are only making.
I m hearing 800e
Heifers be it top end or bottom or in beteween are way back on last year …you’ll still have to shove the boat out for too quality ones ….1000 to 1400 will buy a lot of them…skys the limit if you want good quality hol heifers calving to sexed semen with records to boot ….if milk markets start to recover trade will pick up
With derogation, price of land and labour shortages I'd say dairy heifers will be cheap
Am interested in a few myself buy now or will the price drop?
Look at done deal, littered with dairystock.
I can't speak for daiyman but I know who I am, and its not him. Wasn't looking for an apology really, but I'll accept it and move on. Thanks say👍🏽
I'll leave the pair of ye so.
I don't like bullsh1t that's what's wrong with me.
If I got this wrong I apologise to ye both.
If I was a mod I'd be checking ip addresses. But I'm not and I've no mind to be contacting them.
Again apologies to ye both.
Any truth the ass has fallen out of the in calf heifer trade
Yeah were not the same poster
No need to tar me with it either @SayMyName, for a knowledgeable poster who is usually polite you can be very insulting when you want.
And to repeat, daiymann and myself are not the same person. I could ask for your thinking on it but I'll not.
Eh excuse me? You couldn't be more wrong.
That’s why you use as additive
