Just found the above chart backing up what I have been saying for years.
Global warming is a wholly natural event, if humanity disappeared tonight, global warming would still happen.
Since humans got the tool of fire, god knows when but about 1 million year’s ago.
we have changed the planet ever since. Since we got fire weve developed more and more technology.
But to be Frank nobody knows what the Earth was like 350000 year’s ago.
What we know TODAY is that biodiversity loss is causing Deserts, causing Mega floods & fires, poverty, war & even immigration.
Yes you are right, aren’t the Netherlands the 2 largest exporter of food in the EU or world? In An area the size of Munster?
But I guess the Dutch government’s environmental efforts by killing off those animals on farms makes those farmers incomes too low to run a business and subsequently makes farming unviable, forcing them to sell there property’s & land.
Because we all know, farming at the moment is a race to the bottom.
Yes they're one of the biggest exporters in the world of food, top 5 anyway, much of the veg on our shelves in Ireland comes from there. I'm not really sure what options they have but to curtail production somewhat if it's going to turn the whole country into toxic waste.
Yeah it is truly mad, no doubt very heavy users of all the bad stuff we’re not supposed to use.
Its very simple, they and we (Ireland) have to change our management of resources. We have to change how we make decision’s.
Trust the Ice Core data
Poor land management especially in the tropics typically expands desertification. Increased desertification means a warmer lower atmosphere. A warmer lower atmosphere encourages more evaporation. Increased water vapour in the atmosphere is the biggest heat trapping culprit you can get - knocks C02 out of the park in terms of trapping heat. (Most of the temperature increases we've observed over decades globally are nocturnal - increased water vapour builds cloud so less effect on daytime maxes as Sunshine gets reflected).
One example is the north pole which has seen increased winter temperatures yet slightly cooler Summer temperatures:
Since March 2023 we've been well blasted by the media about increased Global temperatures with warmest month after warmest month being declared (though those should have a huge health warning - they're Satellite measurements, not actual data). Yet there is very little mention about the huge injection of water vapour into the atmosphere caused by the Hunga Tonga Eruption of January 2022.
A proportion of massive volcanos like the HT eruption would typically cause temporary global/regional cooling a few month after they pop - but these ones that cool are most often above sea-level when they erupt. The Hunga Tonga one was different, it was below sea level - so it blasted huge amounts of water vapour up into the atmosphere - very high up there and this stuff takes a fair bit of time to work its way back down to earth - anything up to 4 or 5 years.
It's not rocket science to work out that the blast is very strongly influencing the recent surge of temperatures in alot of regions. Depending on weather patterns over the next few months or even a couple of years we are most likely going to see a humid airmass in many areas - and we all know humidity and heat are great bedfellows.
But heat can only go so far before it condenses and falls as rain/snow - hence our notable wet spells since March... with all the above in mind, don't be shocked to see some alarming snowfalls and winter rainstorms across parts of the northern hemisphere this upcoming winter.
It won’t stop these things happening elsewhere as the gap in the market will be filled. It will drive up food prices if one of the largest producers cuts production. You can bet the Chinese market won’t cut production.
This is the problem with most of these policies, they just move the industries to another part of the world with less standards and controls, meaning lower food and environmental standards in these places that don’t control these things at all.
This is my major gripe with most of these policies, they move the problem elsewhere and make it worse and more expensive for everyone. Then there’s a situation like Ukraine and the systems created can’t adapt as they are dependent on external factors. It’s like we’ve learned nothing from the Russian gas situation.
I hope everybody can take a few minutes off their to read this.
Does it make sense? I think so
If it does to you too then please share or start talking about it.
(5) How to green the world's deserts and reverse climate change | Allan Savory - YouTube
Excellent 20 minute video and he really makes the point well.
We need to stop acting as a pressure release valve for countries that are experiencing overpopulation.
All its doing is overpopulating ourselves, allowing those other countries to continue with abandon, and slowly putting us all in the meat grinder.
Nature is giving us a strong hint yet it seems that people just can't take their eye off some short term money and/or fatal virtue that'll kill everyone.
Population is evening out in Europe. That's a good thing. But damn if the moneymakers will let that happen without a fight. Have to keep that pyramid scheme going at all costs. Globalisation numb nuts.
So, disallow NGO's going to 3rd world countries that encourage breeding, like anything sponsored by the RCC? Without population reduction worldwide, everything else is deck chairs on the Titanic.
There's something like 42 times the CO2 trapped in the oceans than in the atmosphere. Imagine if just a small percentage of that is emitted due to warming.
Holistic Land Management is relatively new knowledge, nobody is to blame.
Its like blameing somebody for not figuring out how to fly to the sun yet!
Its a paradigm shift.
would agree that the world’s populations aren’t helping the case either, But if we got the other 2 third’s of the planets land & waters healthy & Producing food & fibre again, wouldnt that change everything?
Been pushing this for pages and pages now. Savory does not have the data to back up his actual hypothesis and he's been pushing it for three decades. If the science actually aligned with his claims, it would be pursued but it doesn't.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355286215_A_holistic_view_of_Holistic_Management_What_do_farm-scale_carbon_and_social_studies_tell_us
Tell me, What is Science?
Modern science is telling kids these day’s that they can change their sex!!
Holistic Land management works, there started with nothing and now there’s nearly 20 million hectares around the world under management.
You don’t get that kind of success without it working.
And what other option’s have we now to stop bio diversity loss?
Cool, so you can't demonstrate any tangible impact on global warming? Yep I'm inclined to say, follow the science. And we already know for a fact that humans can have a severe impact on the planet. The hole in the ozone layer, resolved by following the science and it's provable. Meanwhile the Savory institute, no evidence after 30 years...
Also the infatuation certain posters have with trans people is wild.... Discussing global warm and your claimed solution but instead of demonstrating proof of it having an impact, reject the science and go on a tangent.
What proof are you looking for? It’s there you just chose not to see it.
I can send in multiple links and videos of results there all available on YouTube and the savoury institute website.
Weve been following the science for hundreds of years man and we are where we are today.
The o zone fixed? Isnt the planet getting hotter & hotter.
People like you keep saying follow the science but i asked you what science is? Do You dont no?
Now tell me your solutions to bio diversity loss, feeding people, jobs, clean air & water?
The hole in the ozone layer has been shrinking thanks to a global effort to eliminate CFCs
I'm sure you can send many links provided by the Savory institute. He does deny you can empirically prove the method reduces global warming etc. That's pretty much the default argument for something that has very little scientific basis. Meta analyses of multiple papers have found little to no basis for it. So I'd prefer to follow peer reviewed research of which there is plenty on this area.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309589057_Holistic_management_-_a_critical_review_of_Allan_Savory's_grazing_method
The reason it's not pursued is there is no get rich quick scam in it for the globalist shills.
Pointless. If there's more food, there'll be more people.
Doesn't matter how you accomplish it, things will only get worse as the population increases
While I'm sure the poster would agree with this, there's nothing preventing that org from submitting research for peer review. They don't..
Do you have any real world proof of this?
We say the climate is on its knees yet your saying o zone layer has been shrinking? Makes no sense
burning fossil fuels and ploughing fields doesn’t do anything for global warming either yet science say’s do it.
Follow academia, you’ll find whoever pays the most can get whatever results they want written on paper.
And your still forgetting how are we gonna feed people and provide ourselves with clean water, air & resources 300 - 1000 years in the future.
So because people will have too much food we shouldnt try and save the world’s land & waters?
You do realise the hole in the ozone layer is separate to global warming? 🤣 The fact you know so little about the topic is pretty telling...
Ok great news the ozone layer is being fixed. here’s your medal 🥇
And global warming isn’t it a separate issue to the ozone layer because Everything functions as wholes.
now, what about global warming, carbon sequestration, food, water, air, the economy and your solutions?
Global warming is not being solved by the Savory institute and that's based on the science. 😊
Ok so thanks for your contribution.
But For context, there trying to save bio diversity, you cant stop Global warming without stopping biodiversity because global warming is only a symptom of biodiversity loss.
https://youtu.be/qYbyJ9pbD-4?si=Si1fSBhiGNDIUoPO
https://youtu.be/6-M4Hq0MKFA?si=-ZLzqjTjUYnsL9Zm
Just to clarify,
Global warming is a natural event where the Earth is going to warm up until it reaches its natural ambient temperature, substantially higher than it has been for the last 5million years,
Biodiversity has nothing whatsoever to do with it.
If all life stopped on Earth tonight, the temperature would still rise by between 15 and 20 degrees Celsius over the next few thousand years.
Read the science, not the propaganda!!
Try again. We're sort-of discussing anthropogenic global warming. Phrases like 'natural ambient temperature' are vague. What temperature do you think it will reach? And why? And what about the rate that it is rising?
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