Israel/Palestine Thread

When the IDF raid Palestinian settlements murders and gun down random civilians, kidnaps them and parade them around the place on social media as if they won a prize, maybe one can compare the two.

But what you just did was defend a war crime. Yet you think you are probably a moral and ethical person.

Welcome to war there is only loss regardless of who's the winner,

Whatever your opinions on the history before today, the IDF have absolutely no choice but to pursue the militants by any means at their disposal.

When Hamas have Israeli civilians, and IDF soldiers as hostages, all bets are off. Even the most pacifist Israeli could not stand idly by while their citizens are held hostage. Without having too much knowledge of the situation, I can't see much alternative outside a large scale ground invasion, on the pretext of hostage rescue.

Expect Israeli retribution against every single person who was captured on video today, spitting on dead Israelis.

Aside from those who were killed, the people I feel most sorry for are the Palestinian children, who have unfortunately been born into a ghetto, and will suffer even further from this escalation.

Latest sources, 200 Isrealis killed so far today.

Over 1,000 injured

Over 60 were kidnapped.

The vast majority of these were civilians, including many women and children.

This must be your first time ever interacting with the Israel and Palestine conflict if you think the IDF have never raided Palestinian settlements and gunned down random civilians.

One commentator today was claiming that Hamas has recently received millions in Aid from the Biden admin.

The woke left in US politics have become much more sympathetic to the Palestinians over the years, a fact that many here still seem obvious to.

Always the woke to blame eh. They ruined our cinema now they are ruining the middle east.

It will make no difference. And they won't literally obliterate Gaza. They won't make the Palestinians get rid of Hamas by killing their sons and daughters. There are limits to what can be achieved by military means ptherwise Israel would have won this war years ago.

This has the potential to draw in Hezbollah if they perceive Israel as weakened. My question is just how did Israeli intelligence not see this coming. They have successfully infiltrated the Iranian Government at a high level over the years. It would seem they hadn't spies high up in Hamas or if they had they were double agents giving back false information. The heads of Sin Beth(?) and Mossad are going to be called to account over this monumental failure

Not sure about that. I expect they will be given a free pass for a day or two at most. In the medium term more things may mysteriously blow up in Iran.