Crazy carry on... Embarrassing
Fair enough👍.draw for the camogie 1/4 finals should have been done after the tullaroan v thomastown game when the teams who progressed were known just like in the hurlng on sunday.
If you quote the post, it makes it easier to know what you are talking about...
(i know you are on about the draw)....
Like a scene from father ted,whole thing has been poorly run.
Can't argue with that. Well composed, honest and realistic.
I'm still waiting on opinions on Village match but as I posted earlier, not very many Village on here saw it as it wasn't on television.
I'm really wondering where all this "Boro were useless", "usual bottlers" stuff is coming from? It takes two teams to produce a great game and the Boro played their part in that, lets see how the others do in the next few weeks and how good that games are. Was it a good time to meet Ballyhale? As good as any I suppose, they were down 5 top players who would all start if they were around or fit. Does that mean their a walk over and that a team doing well in the league should beat them? Not in my opinion.
Lets have a bit of a reality check here, at best the Boro stood a chance of beating a depleted Ballyhale, the 5 times county champions and 3 out of the last 4 All Ireland champions. Ballyhale have 3 of the best forwards in the country not just the county and they have in TJ what I would call the best hurler I've ever seen. They know how to win these games, I'm sure they loved all the BS going around that they were finished and there for the taking and they couldn't do it without Ronan, Brian, Darren and the two Joey's.
The Boro on the otherside are a young team whether some like to admit it or not. From the starting team,
they had 6 players, aged 22 or younger
they had 5 between 23-27
and 4 at 28 or over.
The reason the Boro are often said to be a young team because it's the truth we have lots of young talent coming through regularly and if an older player isn't doing it, he often losses his place to younger lads and then they drift away. The Boro always has struggled to create a diehard attitude where the club comes first, as it does in most country parishes and even our city rivals are far better at that than us. These are not excuses they're realities and when I look at the performance last Sunday I was incredibly proud of our lads. If they can stay together and drive on I think they can start to win at senior. Ballyhale tried to bury them with goals at the start of the game we stood up to it. They tried to physically bully the Boro because for some reason people think the Boro lads are soft, they showed on Sunday, they didn't take a backward step. Unfortunately what they also showed was their inexperience against the most experienced club side in the country. Yet there was only a puck of the ball between them at the end.
Someone said with the Boro's underage titles that they should be pushing on thats a crock of shite. They won 4 minors 2019 to 2022 so the eldest of those lads are 21 maybe 22 many are still only 18. The only other team in the history of the county to do 4 minors in a row was Éire Og (city team) who won in 1934,35,36,37 they didn't win a Senior until 1939 and didn't win another until 1944,45 and 47. Underage success doesn't guarantee senior success it gives you a great chance if you can bring a lot of those players forward.
The Boro won senior in 2017 our 5th ever title and Ballyhale have dominated since winning 5 in a row. The Boro can and hopefully will add a lot more to our tally as these minor winners progress in their careers but nothing is guaranteed. I also don't know who was promoting Shine, Clifford and Moore as county men, they all have potential but their all young and have more hurling in front of them than behind them and to be writing anyone off at 21 or younger is just really immature or thick.
I was incredibly disappointed we lost that game but on reflection and letting the dust settle (I also had different expectations before the game) I'm actually very proud and optimistic for the future. Some are just happy to just always knock, I'm more a half glass full man personally maybe to my own detriment and disappointment but I prefer to have a positive outlook in life than always looking for the negative. I'm a realist too and that's why only ever saw the Boro as having a chance of beating Ballyhale on Sunday (never as favourites in any capacity) and they nearly did but they're lack of experience cost them.
Best of luck to Ballyhale going forward and to all who face them. I can't see them being beat except if they pick up a few injuries to key players. I'm not sure how they'll go on an AI run (if they get out of KK) with the panel as tight as it is but if anyone can it's them.
I agree with your post, clearly you're weren't wearing blinkers watching this very entertaining match. In Harry Shine's defence, I understand he's been plagued with various injuries and having very little luck in that regard, right through this season too.p I believe his ongoing injuries will hinder his prospects of ever lining out for Kilkenny. However, his priority would be to get a clear run, free from injury, with his club. The county scene is far down his own goal at present.
If he could progress from what was a good display from him on Sunday, he'd be a great asset to his club. He deserves all the luck he can get.
I thought Cillian Buckley hurled well overall, was a bit of a link man between defense and Attack and won some hard ball at times. Wouldn't say Harry Shine was awful other day either. Got some decent scores but he's definitely not near Senior Inter County Panel either obviously, He like a few other players around his age has to have a very big year with Kilkenny u20's next year for all the talent is at that age grade for us. This year in that was nowhere near good enough being bet by an average Wexford side.
Did anyone see the draw for the Camogie championship? 😣
Done live on FB in a kitchen using cake tins ....... 😲 😏
Seriously .............................................................................................. 🤔
I thought the boro tried to be over physical and done a lot of pulling and dragging.If they had concentrated on hurling things may have worked out differently.
Thought Shine went down readily, but Mullen can have no complaints, there was a strike with the hurl and he was on a yellow, stupid carry on
You also have to have issue with the way Shine carried on to get a player sent off.
There's no doubting the Boro are a good team but to be ahead of a 14 man Shamrocks ( missing the 2 joey's, Brian Cody and Ronan) with a few minutes to go....you'd have to ask questions. Over the last couple of years they seem to leave all their best hurling on the hard ground and struggle in the soft ground. Shamrocks were very physical yesterday but I would have expected nothing else. People were writing them off all week and a serious backlash was to be expected. I thought they played Boro's puckouts very well, standing off and leaving them drive it long where they were ready to defend. These puckouts worked well in league final but the opposition yesterday were less naive than Glenmore and didn't follow everywhere.
Have they enough left in the tank to finish it off?
Well said Grats
Ah come on now, how many years are we hearing ''the Boro are a young team'' stuff. They bottled that game yesterday. Pure and simple.
Ballyhale had about 6 players with little to no real movement or pace, the Boro had an extra man and still found a way to lose.
The Boro played their part in what was acknowledged as a very good game. I'm guessing that's why there's no talk of the first match yesterday and also the fact that it wasn't on television. Even the Village supporters aren't posting about their own team getting through to the semi final. That's why I asked if Village87 was in the Park yesterday.
A puck of the ball between the two teams at the end. The Boro are a young team and had they met any team other than the Shamrocks they'd have continued with their progress.
Far from washed up, he will be a top class hurler for his club, but the athleticism that worked so well for him at underage has seemed to balance out at adult level, Ballyhale exploited him as a weak link in the air and TJ caught a few balls over his head(no shame in that), he seems caught in 2 minds which way to hold the hurl and it effects the flow of his game, at intercounty level you have no time for that.
I thought Eoin Fennelly had a good game Mullen was on different markers at different times. Shamrocks we’re riled up for the game and were bullying the Boro lads from the start without the referee acting on it. Tom Kenny got a yellow card for nothing because the referee did not want to single out Mullen we’ll see how critical the village man will be of his own players in a fortnight’s time. A lot of the Boro players are 20 years of age or less people seem to forget this.Timmy Clifford is 19 and washed up already?
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Thanks for that
Village87, were you in Nowlan Park yesterday for the matches?
Byrnes and Co are a different gravy...
They won the physicality battle anyway, Eoin Fennelly was thought to be Boros "hardy man", but Adrian completely bullied him and was far to physical for him. Shane Stapelton was the only player to stand up and win the ball when the going was tough, all the others including Buckley disappeared. Disappointing for Kilkenny hurling as it looks like of all the 5 in row Boro minor winning teams we might get very little return in the Kilkenny jersey from it. I was very very disappointed in Timmy Clifford, cannot see what he will offer Kilkenny at inter county level
Well said.
As opposed to the cork hurlers, who don't like any physicality and have being have gone missing any time a team puts it up to them physically for nearly twenty years now.
The thing that struck me was that, while A Mullen was willing to throw digs in Nolan Pk he wasn’t so inclined to do so in the company of Byrnes, Hayes & Co in Croke Pk where he seemed to be happy on the drift out of harms way
Whatever it was that drove the Shamrocks to "play" the way they did today leaves me bewildered. The Mullens in particular were possessed, one getting his matching orders and the other lucky to stay on.
I'm thinking a lot of posters watched the Boro for the first time this year as it was televised and therefore won't appreciate how well they had been playing as a team with many good individual performances along the way.
If the Shamrocks players were to be judged solely on today's match, not too many of them would be classed as county material. And I include Eoin Cody, who I hugely admire, in that. The Boro deserve some credit for keeping tabs on him for most of the match along with C Fennelly and others.
The Shamrocks deserve great credit for winning today because the Boro had them rattled for long periods. It was mentioned in a post that they are missing a number of players. The Boro are missing at least four players from last year's panel due to working out foreign. Many clubs are in the same boat but like the Boro, plough on.
Camogie post
Senior 1/4 finals draw
Village v barrow
Dicksboro v st brigids
Piltown v clara
Windgap v Tullaroan
Relegation semis
Conahy v young irelands
Muckalee v thomastown
Balllyhale were there to be beaten today and dicksboro couldnt do it,
Very poor from boro management. Niall Rowe followed eoin Cody and Moylan was on Colin while it seemed mullen was left idle at times. It was very clear mullen was on his game early and he could of had a goal after a few minutes.The Boro will be very dissapointed and this will really hurt. They had chances and the opportunity to win today.
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