This weekends senior fixtures
Out of interest what way does the Kilkenny championship work. Do they incorporate a league into it ?
Offaly County Final Ferbane v Tullamore is some load of shite. I know it's a very wet day but it is a dreadful game. Tullamore leading 1-4 to 0-4 in added on time at the end is disgraceful.
Final score Tullamore 1-5, Ferbane 0-6.
Did Ballyea get knocked out in the Clare SHC ?
didn't make it out of their group
Surprised with that
Ballygunner would feel confident doing 3 in a row in Munster if 'New champions' come out of the other county's
new champions or not so new champions I think its Ballygunner's to lose anyway
State of play in the various hurling Championships;
Limerick
Quarter Finals 01/10/23 Gaelic Grounds:
Doon v Mungret St Pauls (2pm)
Patrickswell v Ballybrown (4pm)
Winners to meet Kilmallock and Na Piarsaigh in Semi finals.
Cork
Semi finals 01/10/23 Pairc Ui Chaoimh:
Sarsfields v Imokilly (2pm)
Midleton v St Finbarrs (4pm)
Tipperary
Semi Finals
30/09/23 Semple Stadium:
Thurles Sarsfields v Loughmore Castleiney (7.15)
01/10/23 Semple stadium:
Kiladangan v Toomevara (3.30)
Clare
07/10/23 Cusack Park:
Crusheen v Scariff (4pm)
08/10/23 Cusack Park:
Clonlara v Feakle (1pm)
Waterford
Ballygunner Champions
Kerry
Crotta O'Neills Champions
Dublin
Quarter Finals 01/10/23 Parnell Park:
Ballyboden St Endas v Cuala (2pm)
Kilmacud Crokes v Na Fianna (4pm)
Winners to play Lucan Sarsfields and St Vincent's in Semi finals.
Kilkenny
Quarter Finals
30/09/23:
Mullinavat v O"Loughlin Gaels (Thomas Town 2pm)
Glenmore v Bennettsbridge (Clara 3.45)
01/10/23 Nowlan Park:
James Stephens v Graigue Ballycallan (1.45)
Ballyhale Shamrocks v Dicksboro (4.15)
Offaly
30/09/23 Tullamore:
Ballinamere v Shinrone (4pm)
01/10/23 Tullamore:
St Rynaghs v Kilcormac Killoughey (4pm)
Laois
Final
08/10/23 O'Moore Park:
Abbeyleix St Lazarians v Camross
Westmeath
Final 08/10/23 Mullingar:
Raharney v Lough Lene Gaels
Wexford
Naomh Eanna Champions
Carlow
Mount Leinster Rangers Champions
Antrim
Ruairi Og Cushendall v McQuillans Ballycastle (Fr Healy Park)
01/10/23:
Dunloy v Loughgeil Shamrocks (Pairc Mac Uilin)
Derry
Slaughtneil Champions
Down
08/10/23:
Portaferry v Ballygalget
Ballycran v Liatroim Fontenoys
Galway
30/09/23 Pearse Stadium:
Castlegar v Turloughmore (2.30)
St Thomas' v Cappataggle (4.15)
01/10/23 Pearse Stadium:
Loughrea v Clarinbridge (2.00)
Oranmore Maree v Sarsfields (3.45)
Great job C4000
In Kilkenny they play a league which basically just determines whether teams start the knock out championship in a quarter final (top 4 in the league) or a preliminary quarter final (bottom 8 in the league). The losers of the preliminary qfs are in danger of relegation.
There is also a league final which Dicksboro won last weekend.
Good system
Would the leagues be still played when the Intercounty is on ?
No, they start it at the beginning of August and run it off over 6 weeks or so...... 2 groups of 6. There was a mad game in the last round where Ballyhale were 10 points down to James Stephens with about five minutes left and it ended a draw....
Fair play 👏👏
Just adding Kildare who are competing in Leinster Senior too, semi finals this weekend.
Celbridge v Coill Dubh Saturday and Naas v Maynooth Sunday.
Thanks, forgot about Kildare, Naas acquitted themselves very well last year in Leinster.
Preliminary q.f (first round) - 3rd versus 4th from the each group are safe. Loser of the 5th v 6th games from 2 groups are in relegation final.
Kilkenny system works well overall but 2 flaws are League and Shield finals are glorified practice games especially as there now 1 week before the QF, with the preliminary QF set up you mentioned a 5th or 6th place team could make the last 8 while a stronger team finishing 3rd or 4th in a group won't, Tullaroan who lost to Bennettsbridge last weekend are probably stronger than at least 2 of the QF teams.
Back before the split county/club season, they used to play it during the inter-county campaign all right, and it was these matches that people were referring to when they asked "how come Kilkenny can play club championship while the county team is still involved, but other counties can't?".
The answer is that these are not "real" championship matches, in that there's no jeopardy involved - everybody goes through anyway. Sometimes clubs would have played with their inter-county players, and sometimes without, because it didn't make a massive difference at the end of the day anyway. Very telling how they don't even refer to it themselves as championship - the actual title of the competition is the St. Canice's Credit Union Senior Hurling League.
The Kilkenny championship is basically a straight knock-out, with your starting position determined by where you finish in a different competition. It's a little bit like how qualification or otherwise for the Tailteann Cup depends on your position in a different competition altogether (i.e. the National Football League).
I wouldn't quite say no jeopardy as if you finish bottom 2 in the league and lose your first round match then you are starring down the barrel of a relegation final.
Accepted, but you still wouldn't be relegated by virtue of a result in the league. It would be by virtue of results in a couple of championship matches.
Also, I meant 'no jepoardy' more in the sense of there being no danger of league results putting you out of the championship, no matter how badly you performed in the league. You're still guaranteed at least one championship match anyway.
The reason they played these games was the 6 week gap between the Leinster final and All Ireland semi final.
Yeah, I know.
Was often the case that the county players might play a club game if it was say four weeks out from the All-Ireland semi-final, but wouldn't be as likely to play if it was within a week or two of the semi-final. As stated, results of those club games made no huge difference to the club championship anyway, since everybody was going through no matter what.
If the rivalry between Loughmore- Castleiney and Thurles Sarsfields in the Tipperary Senior Hurling Championship is so great, why is there such a paltry crowd at their semi-final in Thurles this evening ? RTE hyping it up.
I'm guessing the **** weather was a factor
Also the fact that even 5,000 would be a good crowd at a club match, but 5,000 would look "lost" in a place like Thurles, that holds about 45,000. Particularly if only roughly half the crowd were in the stand that the cameras were pointing towards, with the other half in the stand that the cameras themselves were in, and therefore not visible on TV.
Current All Ireland Senior Champions Ballyhale getting a huge test atm and down by 3 with 14 men
The sign of greatness
some heart by Ballyhale, some bad decision making by Boro
Dicksboro stopped playing after the red card.
Naomh Eanna going for a double of sorts this weekend in the Intermediate football final in Wexford after winning Senior hurling.
As a matter of intrest many dual players ?
They're on for a treble. Won the intermediate like you said, but are also in the Senior B final on Saturday before the Senior final on Sunday.
They've done it before. Before the restructure they won all 3 adult grades Kildare had at the time, and I'm pretty sure they also won the minor and U16 that year. They are a goliath of a club and I can't see their domination stopping any time soon.
