If you want to have a moan about politics being political there's a whole forum for it https://www.boards.ie/categories/politics-politics
I think I'll need to organise a trip to Germany now 😁
or even increase the warranty cover...
The five-year warranty is expected to see an uptick in the used car values for these models, as the warranty can be transferred to any subsequent owner. If that comes to pass, then there will be a knock-on benefit for new Land Rover buyers, as improved residuals usually make for more competitive finance rates.
So its only within topic to support Govt policy
Feel free to discuss the relevance of a particular EV related policy on it's own merit. But if you want to make comment about the government as a whole (as below) do so on the politics forum.
Makes sense. So proves it just another in a long line of arbitrary unattainable aspirations to appear best in class domestically, in the eternally spoofing Programme for Govt, and internationally. All PR and no knickers
We shall have to wait and see so 😁
But I doubt very much there will be even 1% of cars sold with a combustion engine in 2034. I wouldn't be surprised if it is down to the last 10% by 2029.
I agree. Look where we are now already. The shift happens with new car sales first, which are not the majority on the roads so there will still likely be a majority or large minority of cars on the road in 2029 or 2035 powered by ICE. Just that their replacements, will be EV. It has already happened in places like Norway, where fossil fuel is above €2 per liter already.
I'm not talking about M5s or porsche etc, necessarily, but the likes of the dacia duster and ford focus and those kind of cars will be powered by EV going forward. Where it's not an ultimate driving machine but merely a mode of conveyance. It's already perfectly doable. I'm between jobs at the moment and I've already got most of my daily errands done in my leaf24 - powered by the sun from yesterday and she's already charging up again from the same source. I just dont get why anyone would buy a new 1.5 petrol or diesel family car these days. It makes no sense. Model 3 are so so cheap for a new car. MG4 and MG5 are great cheap options.
I imagine the majority of new car sales will be electric or PHEVs by 2035, but I'm pretty sure most hybrids are still allowed under the proposed and people will still buy them because they still believe the BS about a mild hybrid charging itself for free
When we've a global shortage of stupidity then EVs will be 100% of sales
Very reassuring for one of the most unreliable brands in history 😂
The 2035 EU ban is structured as a 100% reduction in CO2 emissions during vehicle use from the fleet levels of 2021. Under the current target Hybrids, and PHEVs would not be sellable starting 2035. There's an interim target for 2030 of a 55% reduction. Meaning todays 95g CO2/km becomes 52.25g CO2/km.
The targets are at a fleet level, so a manufacturer could still achieve the 2030 target by selling lot's of BEVs and a few smokers.
And also for those legacy OEM that dont sell EVs in 2030, the price of ICE will rise dramatically as they will need to buy more and more ZEV credits from the likes of Tesla.
Interesting, I didn't realise the ban went that far
Don't forget the E Fuels the Germans were so excited about 🙄
E fuel is almost as bad as hydrogen.
do we need a new thread for EVTOL ?
So... Lewis motors have an F150 EV for sale. It's POA but I sent them a message already. This has me written all over it. Wonder what the rrp is on one of those here!
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alan-lewis-ba475b40_ford-fordf150-cars-activity-7110703516381257728-xiRC?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
Wow that's a cool motor. With the 6kW V2L too I think? Fair play for your man for bringing one over, but I'd say he will need at least €20k on top of what it cost him, which I think would be reasonable enough. And with VAT, VRT and import duty, that's not gonna be cheap.
Let us know how much when you find out!
Yes I'd imagine similar to the prices quoted for the Plaid X/S. But infinitely cooler in every way.
The US price is $92k for the platinum trim (which this is) with the extended range 130kwh pack (which I think this has, as the SR is only 220 miles range and this one seems to be 300). $92k moved over here with taxes etc would put you at 130-150k. Back of a napkin maths.
Above 120-140k that would render it unaffordable for me. Hence why I messaged to ask about the price. I'll be on the phone to them tomorrow!
What would that have, CCS1?
would that not get messy with charging in the wild?
It's out of my price range unfortunately. Been pricing up used ones to import myself and that may be more feasible as they start at only $50k for the pro models in the US. Add taxes/duty/shipping and that's probably 80-90k landed. VRT would be low - either 7% as a private EV or 200euro as a commercial N1, depending.
Yup, type1 AC and CCS1. There's adapters for everything (I'm already using a 32a type2 to type1 adapter at the house to charge the leaf). For CCS1, there are adapters on the likes of alibaba/express. CCS2 and CCS1 are pretty much the same standard as far as I understand from the protocol. The AC ports are used only for signalling and comms, so, while the shape and location are different, a dumb adapter would be able to make it work. It's not like CCS to chademo or vice versa. All you'd need is something to move the comms etc on the plug/cable side into the correct position to have the car accept it.
Anyway, I don't really fast charge that much anymore (and if it were an issue, we have herself's Ora anyway which is more than capable of road trips).
I think when I'm a bit further into model 3 ownership or if I get a good offer for it, I'll revisit this idea. An F150 EV is a lot more interesting to me than the S/X plaid I was considering importing.
just curious,
did you ever get the test drive of the plaid s/x?
Iffy builds according to reviews in any case. The coolest F150 is the blacked Raptor. I know it’s an ICE but looks amazing on silver rims
Ford Australia are setting up (via a 3rd party manufacturer) a purpose built factory for LHD conversions of the F150 twin-turbo V6 that covered by manufacturers warranty. (Similar programs exist for the Chev Silverado Dodge RAM). If the program is successful, this could be carried over to the Lightning, however it will probably be a couple of years before they would be available for sale.
298 euro for 15,000km annual mileage. I know EVs are cheap to run but that's rediculous. If I put in ICE reg U get this
So they seem to have zero fuel cost for EV and zero service cost. Very off in my man maths.
Needs a giant asterisk, only applies for 100% home charging from a fully off the grid system who's costs have already been paid. I suppose it's technically possible and probably already close to being achieved by a few posters here
Well if I add in the electricity costs for my ID.4 on the Flogas community plan night rate, that's an extra €438 roughly
On the Pinergy tariff it's €150
Service was €170 every 2 years, so €85 per year
So let's say €825 per year for the EV?
It's a bit silly not including the service costs and electricity. I assume it's partly down to electricity prices being a lot more varied than fuel
Nope, had one booked but was horrendously sick on the morning so didnt go.
If I were to buy a non EV pickup I'd buy something with 6 cylinders, an oil based fuel, and a male sheep head as a logo.
Or free workplace charging
Some idea
Not in this country. We are still struggling to get to terms with what a proper EV charging 'hub' looks like.
Interesting idea. The devil is in the details of course - savings of “up to £1.3bn by 2050” seems low, and they don’t speculate on what % of the spaces would need to be EVs, never mind the fact that many owners may not want their EV to be adding power cycles to the battery while they’re away on 2 weeks holiday.
wouldn’t this idea be far more effective and easier to implement at home, once all EVs supported vehicle-2-grid, and people with lesser used EVs effectively have their own tesla powerwall sitting on the drive? You’d imagine the savings are infinitely higher too - the car is on the driveway almost every day of the year, versus how often it might be at an airport
