The emergence of "Zombie" by The Cranberries as an Irish sporting anthem

Why not get a song written then

Well first off we do know what it's about. I could see the point with 'Delilah' that nobody ever really listened to the verse, and only sang a catchy chorus.

In terms of 1916 or the IRA, to me that's not really relevant.

In fact, I'd actually think it would fit better as a political song to be sang at an event, as that's how it was meant.

Using it to goad opponents (maybe less so as a fun tune), is either disrespectful, or just missing the point in a cringey way.

That's whatabouttery again. Killing people, especially civilians, is bad. It's not a hard rule to understand. Killing children is bad. And I'm not about to get into an argument with someone trying to glorify a group of child killers. If you want I'll admit this, it might be possible using some metrics to show that one bunch of scum were slightly less scummy than the other. But both sides were doing scummy things. like I said before, it's like trying to claim one serial killer is better than another one because they caused slightly less harm. It might be true, but in the end they're both serial killers.

And back on topic, I have no problem with people singing the cranberries at a rugby match. It's a good song, it's not even tribal. Wish there were more anthems like that.

Shite song, shite singing, shite music, just as bad as Celtic symphony, The Sawdoctors, Garth Brooks & County & Western crap!

We generally don't with murders though do we? I am not sure that in any other situation people go out of their way to try and say one murderer is "cleaner" than another.

Back to the rugby, isn't it a bit ironic that the so-called "partitionists" are the ones supporting a 32 county team?

Great that we beat the South Africa Rugby team though, hah?

Can we get a vote for "The Monkees - I'm a believer"??

Do you...do you think you invented the term "broads" for females??? 😂

I get that.

I mentioned earlier that I was ok with singing Zombie as an anti-IRA protest song at a sporting event.

Come to think of it though, in terms of 32 country inclusivity, I don't think it works for the rugby.

I think you'd have to either drop it, or sing something alongside that's similarly critical of Loyalist atrocities.

It seems most people aren't singing in a political context anyway. More as a perhaps misguided homage to Delores, or to tastelessly goad the opposition.

The takes on this are wild.

Zombie has been a popular song for both Limerick GAA and Munster Rugby in recent years starting as a commemoration to local treasure Dolores. It's a catchy song to sing and works well in a crowd for everyone else to join in, it's a song of peace and resolve and it means nothing else other than having pride in Limerick. It's been sung for years in both the Gaelic Grounds and Thomond and I've never heard of it anyone consider it even remotely divisive.

Maybe the song should just should just stay in Limerick if people outside are going to do these kind of mental gymnastics every time it's heard in a stadium.

If it is being done in the name of peace, there's tons of songs that are only about peace and don't reference specific events.

One of those might be better suited for a 32 county organisation.

Its a good song imo.

So just to add to this.

The sound of the song is great IMO and the words are a bit meh but they go with the sound so it gets a pass.

The meaning of the song I always felt came from a Southern Irish Rock Band that didn't really understand any of the issues. Yes you can say it is a song against war, and in particular the Warrington bombing, but its largely one against the nationalist, they are not saying

"In your head Britannia is still ruling ... in your head"

Do I think it is an anti-War song?

No, It is unfortunately comes across as a tiresome FG TD saying do we really have to deal with the nationalist in the north look at what they keep doing, rather then recognizing that both sides were doing much the same to one another.

Though I am sure the cranberries would take a differing view. However, all in all its a good catchy rock anthem.