Sounds like you want to stay with with ICE. And that’s fine. Nobody has a noose around your neck. 👍
This is the UK government we're talking about here, anyone earning less than £60k per year doesn't count as a person to them 😬
From what I can tell this has nothing to do with consumers but more around protecting jobs
When BoJo the clown was in charge he was talking big about a green industrial revolution where Britain would be some powerhouse of battery and EV production
While simultaneously throwing up enormous trade barriers with their main car export market. Seems like there's some flaws in his logic 🤔
Anyway, instead of a green revolution they got the highest COVID death rate in Europe and a bunch of scandals from Number 10. Oh and a bunch of broken promises, I'm still waiting on that bridge across the Irish sea 🙄
There's been a fair few UK battery or car startups that went wallop, Britishvolt being the main one that comes to mind
Anyway, poor Rishi has to pick up the pieces and is doing it the only way he knows how, rampant and shortsighted profit driven capitalism, with a healthy dose of deregulation to stop the big brains being held back by pesky things like environmental or societal concerns.
All fueled by ever mounting debt, although at least they're getting a decent rate for bonds now, that should shore up the pension funds, since OAPs are the only people voting for him now
Anyways, rant over, carry on 😁
A bit hyperbolic; and thats obviously not how government policy works.
mall the old chestnuts apply, when you’re applying a policy to everyone in the whole country-
EVs don’t suit everyone
cost comparatively a lot more.
In a country where the fiesta class car was the top selling car for a few decades roughly, you can’t just magic the money into all those peoples pockets to afford a similar sized EV (few of them exist to begin with, and most have incredibly low range ). Indeed their buying power is reducing for the past few years.
so the mass market new car buyer doesn’t have a similar prices EV to pick. the person driving a €45k Tiguan changed to a €48k model Y for example. No big deal.
also, if you do very low mileage (less than 10,000km pa), it’s hard to justify spending €6-10k more for the EV of similar size to save maybe €1k pa in fuel costs.
EVs are far from depreciation proof - indeed the 2nd hand market appears to be a battleground right now.
it’s way more complicated to set a policy rather than just have an opinion
The worry is what else they'll row back on, subsidies for charging network, taxes on ICE cars
This is the PM of free markets, low taxes and "maxing out" the UK's oil and gas industry 🙄
No need to make 2030 the date that the sale of new petrol and diesel cars will no longer be allowed to be sold. Virtually nobody will want to buy one way before that. And for the stubborn folk, enjoy your car costing 5 times as much in total cost of ownership, good luck
The day this 2030 date was announced, the whole wide world said they’d have to row back on it. it was inevitable.
‘Warning petrol ban delay could stop people buying electric cars’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-6686396
I think you might be overestimating the efficiency of the generator there
I dunno what model it is, and I'm not bothering to look it up. But I know the Hyundai 5kW diesel gensets run for 25 hours at 50% load off a 25l tank
So that helpfully works out to 2.5kWh/l, a bit lower than the 4 you used
So 44c/kWh, which is actually still cheaper than the day rate with some suppliers 🙄
Is green diesel really only €1.10/l though? I know it's usually a good bit cheaper than unmarked diesel but that's close to 40%, normally it was around 30% cheaper so between 1.20 and 1.30 per litre
One thing to watch out for us that some cars (including any MEB cars like the Born) require you to put a certain amount of charge in before they'll move again
Bjorn did the test with the ID.3 which should be functionally the same
I think he put around 1-1.5kWh into the battery before it'd allow him to crawl to the DC charger
I made a small 48V one myself years ago (that you could actually pick up and carry on your own), but I couldn't get the granny charger to charge the Tesla with it, presumably an earthing issue. Didn't look into it further. My inverter was non-sine wave so might have been the culprit. I think I actually used my eBike battery for that. Obviously a tiny setup literally to give it 1-2km range to limp it home
I think Will Prowse did a video where he made exactly that, a battery handcart with a built in inverter
In defence of the Cupra, it should have nearly 15km range even after the SoC reads 0%
Based on Bjorn's tests in the ID.3, the car reads 0% when the BMS is actually at 5%
But it'll shut down at 2%, so you don't get much extra range
Should still be enough to get to an AC charger at least, although if it is Waterford then public chargers are a pretty rare commodity indeed
I reckon that's actually the AA but were in a rental van, seeing plenty of companies in unbranded rentals at the moment
Easy to get caught, inexperienced 232, wet day with reduced range, might have thought 0% on an EV was like the fuel light on an ICE. Probably had a friend/relation with a genny. And it's Waterford, where chargers are scarce.
Yes I assume someone chanced their arm to get home near 0% and did not make it so they came up with a DIY solution to get them that last few miles. Most break down services just tow EVs to the nearest working charge point or home. It's often quicker than staying and trying to slow charge.
Or just for the photoshoot.
Bjorn has those videos where he runs the cars until they die and he recovers them with 2 ecoflow batteries, sometimes just one is needed. In one he got rescued by an Ioniq6 which has V2L, so much more elegant solutions available than that.
Or just hire something pre assembled and certified for a fraction of the cost.
The telephone number is on the genset.
Laughable.
Tell you what, I could build one for 3k, possibly would fit on a handcart, from off the shelf parts,
One of them Seplos battery sets from frogstar, 3kw 48V inverter, and then throw in a 58V recifier to charge it., Portable 14kwh ish battery pack.
Damn, That would be better than a generator any day, For anything Id need to do.
Prove it, not some homemade job either,
I still find it laughable hauling around a truly dead weight being recommended by people who would spare no sympathy nor understanding of others wanting to avoid such a scenario.
Ignoring the wait for the van to come and the embarrassment of a diesel generator charging a car.
Well in a trailer then if you only need it sometimes. Smaller, lighter and cheaper setup than one with that diesel genny. And if that's indeed all the trailer is ever used for, might as well stick up a few panels, so that battery is always topped up.
LoL same guys that would laugh at hauling around a 10 kWh battery in a phev thats used everyday, now want a diesel van to haul one around for one or 2 times a year.
Solar panels, funny.
A lesson was learned, its unlikely to be repeated.
Is it possible this was just a once-off solution to get enough kWh into a stranded EV so that they could make it home/to a charging station?
and throw a cheeky 1kWp system on the roof of the van too....
Setup is ridiculous, far cheaper to buy a 10kWh batterypack with a 3.6kW outlet and have it in the back of a van. Charge it up cheaply at night too.
Lets ignore the cost of generator or the 7kw chargepoint.. that works with it.
Whats cheaper per kwh.. green diesel or public charging.
Green diesel is about 1.10 a litre, about 10kwh/l efficiency is about 40% so for every litre you get 4 kwh of electric out., 27.5c/kwh... thats cheaper than day rate right now :O
The UMC charger is capable but they don't give you the connector as standard, needs to be ordered separately.
You can get granny cables with large blue plugs that charge at 7kW. I think this used to come as standard with Teslas.
You can buy that whole set up in one package, I forget the name of them.
Embarrassing for a 50 k spend.
I think someone in the US was selling a generator with a built in 3.6kW EV charger
It was aimed for breakdown recovery I think
It'd be a lot more useful over there since their granny cables are at 110V so need 20A to work properly
I always wondered could EVs be powered off green diesel. Looks like a granny cable, that took a while ..
My one at home is always available 😉
LoL thats your post I think, I just used it as an example of the real world,
Since all that, I have seen 3 more posts, of cars queuing, chargers down etc.
