The whole problem is rules what happens when slurry speading season opens every tom dick and harry is spreading then we get wet week where does it all go
Since we're all being honest and understanding here.
Ploughing a field has been measured by Teagasc to release 20 mg of Nitrates to soil water and watercourses.
So why is it permitted from the 1st of December to leach all winter into the waterways?
Surely with all nutrient sources supposedly to be guarded and cherished and the big focus on improving water quality. It makes no sense bar the agenda is not to improve water quality but to greenwash the tilling.
Fields ploughed everywhere from December to Feb and then washed out of it all March and April
I doubt Putin is paying them directly but the fossil fuel crew are surely looking at the Irish environmental “commentators” as useful idiots.
I’d say you’re right too about them getting more paranoid, and louder as a result. They’ve shouted about the sky falling in for years now. It hasn’t and while people listened at first, they’re now turning away from it. The media might still give them a platform but very few outside that bubble are listening.
Out of interest, does anyone know how many derogations are currently in place for other countries and/or agri sectors in Europe?
Watercourses around here have high nitrates but the catchment area is nearly all tillage.
There are currently three countries with derogations I think
Edit: Actually looks like 2 - It seems Belgium's expired last year. So only Ireland and Denmark
Relevant documents available from here:
It’s still the cows fault tho ……
But it suits the whisky industry to have low protein in grain and nitrate leached from soil.
Now imagine if all this was reversed and this was cows with a nitrate release of 20 and it was milk that was looking for low protein.. there'd be pictures of blue babies all over the net.
But to the Irish environmentalists this is perfect. It's tillage and whisky. Absolutely rational for protection (not cows) and not rocking the boat.
I know. I've been banging on about this for the last five years maybe more.
I started seeing it and realising when I studied regenerative agriculture and understanding biochar.
The carbon in the soil holds the nutrients. That carbon is from the dead soil life. When you expose the carbon to oxygen the nutrients it held are free to leach. The less carbon in the soil the more leaky the soil gets.
It's really bs with the way the epa and our environmentalists are behaving in this country. Not a brain cell left. Must be the vegan diet..
And if you aren't in receipt of payments then what? Just because you don't take money doesn't mean they won't come after you and take you to the cleaners some other way
It’s all well and good now the small majority who are not submitting maps and supplying milk but if people en masse start doing so it’ll be clamped down on you can be guaranteed. Wouldn’t be counting on it as a viable plan going forward…
And every hedge trimmed on the 3 sides
What are you telling me that for
Your some gullible ejeet its plain to see the poster is an environmental nut in disguise 🥸 ....either that or he's just a farmer of some description having a good laugh at anyone who engages with him as another poster said its completely gone to **** here since he joined ......there is no discussion just shite talking 😴
Northern Ireland is a **** show for decades and if your not well aware of that you've been living under a rock
Yes but it's not under dept of agriculture rules or remiit its a Council by law 🤔 to save dual inspection and court costs for a couple of grand of a fine the department of ag inspects and fines are issued on single payment etc this was negotiated by the ifa after people were receiving multiple inspection for the same things
I've ranted enough.😬
Can be sure who not in bps but going by number of cows some lads have u have to wonder where they would have enough land
A little tip for posting.you see something on here that you find emotive write your post but don't post it for a while and come back to it later and review it before you send it.often I ve decided not to post stuff later on and been better off for it
I find myself doing the same lately.
As the saying goes, "Never miss an opportunity to say nothing." (And yes, I get the irony!)
Another tip is, would you say it to someone's face, if not don't post it
The dept of Ag have being doing the local authority nitrates inspections for years in the spring of the year, and also the farms that are claiming no subs, we had one about 5 years ago and the neighbours also till they found the problem with the overflow pipe out of a lagoon into the stream. The local authorities test the river’s and streams for water quality and anybody thinks they are fooling the system is only coddling themselves.
Another tip is chill the phuck out and allow everyone the right to voice their own opinion without getting your knickers in a twist over it.
I think vladamir has more to worry about than icmsa and ifa. Does anyone know what went on when icmsa walked past the picket.I heard some nasty things were said.The lady in charge of macra is after the ifa for something said also i read all this in the ifj.
i see ag food aren't updating the nitrogen and phosphorous statement like last year. Thankfully teagasc have an excel spreadsheet to fill out your numbers to find your nitrogen and phosphorous for the year. So teagasc are good for something😀
With the way the weather is turning again, you just have to wonder how slurry tanks are going to be empty by the end of September.
Where will you get your average stock numbers from to fill in spreadsheet. I think icbf only count stock numbers at end of every month whereas department count everyday
if your a herd plus member you can get it there or i just put in the number we had every month and worked it out that way. small herd here to easy to count betsy, daisy and buttercup.
There iscno excuse for tanks being full cant uderstand people there was plenty of oppurtunity since last spring.
Well there was a longish drought period in May June followed by a very wet July and August where any few good days were used to cut silage.
I could be out spreading today but there is a lot of rain forecast for tonight and tomorrow.
