Very good montage.Creepy ,actually.Hope it gets seen in Moscow.
Seems more like they're systematically dismantling the utility of Sevastopol as a naval base as a whole. Just look at the sequence of events over recent weeks & months:
And now, the attack on Sevastopol itself: One amphibious assault ship taken out, one submarine out of commission. And, because of the fact that at least one of these ships was hit in drydock, that dock in question is going to be out of commission for weeks, if not months.
There are a number of floating drydocks available in Sevastopol, but from a quick check on Google Maps, only one of them looks to be big enough to accommodate a Ropucha size ship. Anything else will likely need to got to Novorossiysk for repairs, or even scheduled maintenance on the underwater hull, rudders, or props.
It's a fairly effectively chosen targets. The Turks closing the access route means the Black Sea fleet is stuck as is. It's not like an airbase where reinforcements can be flown in or a front where armoured vehicles can be sent via rail/lorry from the Far East.
Ah I think they have some limited ability to transfer smaller vessels.
Utilizing Russia's internal waterways provides the Russian Navy with the capacity to transfer both corvettes and other light units, such as landing craft, among its three western fleets and the Caspian Flotilla as may be required. Analysis in May 2022 suggested that it may be feasible for the Russian Navy even to move its Kilo-class submarines between the Black Sea and the Baltic via the internal waterways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet
That is true, but the size of ships is limited, and I'm not sure that this method is viable in winter due to the canals freezing over. A corvette is quite a bit more sensitive underwater than a barge carrying logs.
Just send a barge carrying logs 500m in front of the corvette. Frozen water issue solved.
Includes today's excellent work best since moskva 16 visually confirmed first sub in modern day warfare from a country with no navy
"Running rings" I love it. :)
You'd have thought that after that little incident at Port Arthur, Russia would have known better than to allow their navy to be caught in port...
Ukraine should make an offer to repair the dry docks for Russia (as a gesture of goodwill)
Would make you wonder what the repairs could have justified the sub being docked? It's a relatively new sub, no? Either complete ignorance/ incompetence if it wasn't serious damage that needed repairing? Surely it could just have stayed at sea?
On top of everything else, we don't know what kind of internal politics, cliques or factions are operating within the Russian Military brain-trust. It's entirely possible their organisation is such that it can't learn from its mistakes - cos that would involve upper management admitting fault and incompetence, and may result in rivals pulling out the knives. Russian boot camp has always sounded an especially hellish, oppressive regime & I can't imagine that attitude disappears the moment the grunts start moving up the ladder.
I'd say the Russian Army couldn't adapt if it wanted to - not to any substantial degree. After all, the world and its mother knows how vulernable its logistics are, how critical that rail-line around Tokmak is yet there's absolutely no indication the Russians have tried to evolve or change their logistical platforms.
Lads, the Port Arthur remark was just a joking reference to the opening of the Russo-Japanese War in 1905, when the Russian Pacific Squadron based at Port Arthur, modern day Dalian in China, was badly mauled by an early morning surprise torpedo attack by the Japanese Navy. Before war was declared, no less, which sounds familiar somehow...
I guess I should cut down on the amount of Drachinifel videos I watch 🤪
Yep, US intelligence critical.
Yes, Port Arthur is often referenced with regard to Japanese surprise attacks. The Russian naval humiliations continued, sending their Baltic Fleet halfway around to world to get sunk by the Japanese at Tsushima.
As an aside, if you ever come across the series Reilly: Ace of Spies starring Sam Neill, there is an episode covering that attack.
That might explain why they were so careful not to actually declare war on Ukraine.Fool me once.....
British missiles used in the attack is beautiful to hear. The Brits now own Putin's ass and he can do the square root of f all about it. 🤣
That's for Sailsbury Moscow dwarf 👊
Hope they don't pull the plug. ;-)
"You like cathedrals, we got your sub
How do you like them cathedrals"
If its that new, then it may be suffering from build /design defects, like the new super tank, the Armata. And I think that they have a new Aircraft Carrier also suffering from building / design defects.....as far as I know, they have been fixing it for a few years now. Bit like the Ladas of the seas, I guess.
I think you have got to the crux of the issue here, given corruption is rife in the Russian military this means the top brass are never held accountable , so incompetence is not punished. To think at one stage Russia was considered the second strongest army in the world . Haha. The Ukrainans are showing you don't have to take Crimea by force,just chip away at Russia's ability to occupy it before they are eventually forced to retreat. If this does happen I hope Kermit can come back to comment about it:)
Someone recently mentioned Betteridge's Law- Shoogy is asked 'We will win?'
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Well when you consider the hazing (Dedovschina) Russians go through in the first year of their basic training, , hard to see any of them being unaffected by it. And it just festers along all the way up through the ranks.....
I wouldn't go so far. Even modern warships need to go in for regular dry-dockings to have their underwater hulls inspected, marine growth removed and similar work. Also, on most modern submarines, and yes, that includes the Kilo class, you will likely have hull-mounted flank sonar arrays that will need regular inspections & repairs as well, probably more so than the actual hull. Not every ship that is dry-docked is so because it has suffered damage.
That's fair enough, thanks for info. It just seems, given Ukraine's limited options for attack and their recent modus operandi, that storing such valuable assets right under their noses is massively risky. Its not like you can throw a tarp over a sub, or move the dry docks around - they're a fixed target so all the Ukrainians need to do is keep an eye out for new arrivals. I wouldn't want to be relying on my air defence systems for guaranteed protection there.
Dear Leader - "What's this malarkey about a boat and submarine?"
Putin - "Did you see we have another rocket launching pad over here?"
Dear Leader - "Oohh-aah"
That's the thing, they really don't have a choice. Novorossiysk, the other main operating base of the Black Sea Fleet, only has two floating drydocks available from what I can see, with one of them being pretty small, probably too small for a Kilo class submarine. Sevastopol is Russia's main maintenance facility for the Black Sea Fleet. They have three regular dry docks, not one as I originally stated, apologies for that, as well as three floating dry docks.
Last night's strike has just eliminated a third of that drydocking capacity in Sevastopol by blocking two of the three regular dry docks. That leaves them with three floating drydocks and one regular one, at least until the Russians have managed to remove the two hulks that were hit. And one of those three floating drydocks looks pretty small. Whoever schedules maintenance and repairs in Sevastopol has quite the headache on their hands.
Ouch. So it's almost just a matter of when, not if, Ukraine manage to knock out the Baltic fleet and/ or the dry docks? Knock out the dry docks and you can't make essential repairs/ servicing, degrading the effectiveness (let alone safety) of the fleet. And if you do dock, hope and pray that your sitting duck doesn't get taken out by drone/ land based missiles or (as it now appears) aircraft fired missile.
Their mistake was not putting tyres on top of the sub 😂
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