VW ID.4

the_amazing_raisin · 13-09-2023 03:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121105535#Comment_121105535

Yeah I'm definitely going to avoid the 21 inch rims next time. They look great, until you see the cost of tyres

For comparison, my wife's Leaf would cost approximately €300 for a full set of tyres. That might pay for 1 tyre for an ID.4 😭

micks_address · 13-09-2023 03:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121105549#Comment_121105549

im not sure 20s or 19s would be significantly cheaper? i only ended up with 21s as the car was a dealer pre order i was able to grab when they were hard to get.. i should have asked if they would have swapped on smaller wheels.. they probably would but probably wouldnt have given me any money back!

the_amazing_raisin · 13-09-2023 03:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121105556#Comment_121105556

You'd save a few hundred by going to 19s with premium tyres, the main difference is there's generally more selection available and more budget brands

For example, when I was looking before at 21s in all weather, the only option was the €260 Goodyears

Drop down to 19s and you can get tyres for €88 each

Now would I personally buy the €88 tyres? Probably not, they're C rated for grip which doesn't sound great

But there's mid range options available for around €100-150 per tyre

KCross · 13-09-2023 03:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121105506#Comment_121105506

Your front toe was out, which matches with what you showed in your tyre pics. So, you look at the initial and final columns and the final should be between the min/max values in that centre column for it to be within spec.

What's odd though is that they left the rear toe out of spec. Maybe that's not adjustable or something on the rear. Were the rear tyres evenly worn?

micks_address · 13-09-2023 03:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121105619#Comment_121105619

all the tyres had uneven wear

n.d.os · 13-09-2023 06:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121103961#Comment_121103961

I've just checked the software version and it's 2.3.0. No updates available. Does that sound up to date?

the_amazing_raisin · 13-09-2023 06:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121106223#Comment_121106223

Nope, ring the garage and arrange an update to 3.2, that's the latest. OTA update got stopped for the cars on 2.3 because they bricked a bunch of cars

I think the timers got improved (fixed would be a stretch) in 3.0

handpref · 13-09-2023 06:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121103665#Comment_121103665

Solid info, much appreciated 👍🏻

KCross · 13-09-2023 09:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121106223#Comment_121106223

No, that's quite old and yes the timers are complete garbage on that version.

You need to get it booked in for the v3.2 update. Its not done OTA. Its a mandatory visit to the workshop to get that done and it will take several days to get it done and it is free and they should give you a replacement car as its a VW recall.

n.d.os · 13-09-2023 10:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121106780#Comment_121106780

Thanks guys. I've been pestering my wife to drop in her car for a service so I think this is a good excuse to get it booked in. We really need to get scheduled charging working. It's a bloody nuisance with the ID swiping it on in the middle of the night.

micks_address · 14-09-2023 08:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121105629#Comment_121105629

just noticed this morning the garage put two bridgestone turanza on the back and two pirelli on the front... was rushing back to work yesterday and just had a quick glance at the front tyres.. annoying really as i wanted them to match but probably makes feic all difference long term.. i was told would be 4 pirelli.. probably could have saved a few quid if id just got them to do the back and got the front two fitted in discount tyres

TitianGerm · 14-09-2023 08:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121107627#Comment_121107627

What's the difference in price? If the Bridgestone are more expensive I wouldn't look for them to be changed but I'd be ringing to complain anyway. If they're a cheaper tyre then I'd want them swapped.

micks_address · 14-09-2023 08:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121107642#Comment_121107642

The bridgestones are a bit more expensive.. and to be honest ive been told they wear better than the pirelli.. and as the car is mainly rear wheel drive.. probably as well stick with them.. just annoys me when i ask for something and get something else! they didnt even mention it in the garage.. on the phone 4 pirelli was discussed.. i didnt specifically ask for pirelli but thats what they had in stock

KCross · 14-09-2023 02:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121107627#Comment_121107627

probably could have saved a few quid if id just got them to do the back and got the front two fitted in discount tyres

Ahem!... that's what I suggested! 😀

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121101594#Comment_121101594

I'm not too keen on your dealer for tyres. He gave odd advice about alignment and then gave you odd tyres after you had agreed on what was to be done. I wouldn't be going back to them for tyres to be honest. Use your local tyre centre.

but probably makes feic all difference long term

It probably wont. As long as you have the same tyres on left/right of each axle you are good. Having a different tyre front/back doesn't really matter as long as they are all decent quality.

micks_address · 14-09-2023 02:41PM

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yeah i know you suggested it.. and the only reason i didnt go for it was getting it all done in one place yesterday and matching tyres.. could have saved a bit alright.. havent bothered phoning them about it yet. im back there in 2 weeks re the sotfware update.. i could push for a change but im not sure its worth it

Dr4gul4 · 14-09-2023 06:02PM

Hello fellow Id 4 owners.

Picked up our 232 yesterday afternoon, didnt realise it at the time, but we happen to have the dreaded electric drive not working correctly error, 23 km into its life.

So anyway it's going back to the garage Monday it now transpires.

micks_address · 14-09-2023 06:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121110106#Comment_121110106

That happened only once on mine and cleared itself..might be once off?

micks_address · 14-09-2023 06:15PM

Am I missing covers from these nuts?

Dr4gul4 · 14-09-2023 06:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121110162#Comment_121110162

Hoping as much, but it's really the wife's car, so I'd rather it not be there at all, hense it's going back into the VW garage.

They do say it a fairly generic error.

Padraig Mor · 14-09-2023 06:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121110164#Comment_121110164

No! They are the covers!

the_amazing_raisin · 14-09-2023 07:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121110164#Comment_121110164

Nope, all good

You're obviously a more careful driver than me with the alloys looking so good 😁

EDIT: Are you driving a GTX? I thought they had different alloys to the 1st Max

PaddyCar · 14-09-2023 07:54PM

Hi all. Looking at getting a 212 id4 over the next few days and have a couple lined up for viewing. I'm new to EV so is there any particular questions l should be asking regarding battery degradation, tyre age or alignment, service history etc.?

Also, what is the market like at the moment and would there be much room for haggling on price. Listed prices are just under the 40k mark.

the_amazing_raisin · 14-09-2023 09:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121110553#Comment_121110553

Check DoneDeal for prices to get an idea of where they are, just be sure to compare like for like specs

If you're looking at an ID.4 Life then I would say there's definitely room to haggle, the more expensive trims might be harder to argue down in price

Chances are the car is fine, but the seller could have a battery health report if the car has been serviced recently (it's 2 years for the ID cars, so it might have been done recently)

You can use an OBD scanner if you have one and an app to read the estimated battery capacity, if the owner is okay with you plugging it in

Otherwise you can figure it out from the GOM range and consumption. Ask the owner to open the screen showing the battery percentage and long term driving data to get the consumption

You can use the formula below to figure it out

(Range on GOM / Battery percentage) * Consumption = Battery capacity

The capacity should be around 77kWh

So if I take my car which is currently at 42% with 199km range estimated and an average consumption of something like 16kWh/100km

(199km/42%)*16kWh/100km = 75.8kWh battery capacity

I can't remember the exact consumption so it might be a little off, or my battery has lost some capacity since 2021

micks_address · 14-09-2023 09:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121110492#Comment_121110492

Yep gtx

joe1303l · 15-09-2023 07:07AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111042#Comment_121111042

Not sure how accurate this method would be ? I’d have thought it would be short term consumption data that would be linked to the GOM range. If you really need to be sure of the battery health, it might be worth paying for an Aviloo test. If the car has several years of battery warranty left, I wouldn’t be too concerned.

Comer1 · 15-09-2023 09:46AM

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That is not in any way an accurate way to calculate battery capacity. Using the trip instead of long term data might be a bit more accurate. FIY, my car came with 71.5 kWh capacity new and is still the same after 20,000 km after many checks with an OBD scanner.

micks_address · 15-09-2023 10:08AM

Apologies if posted before - drive of the updated 2024 id4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgb-I6ENHsY

software really snappy... gtx will be up to 340 bhp but no comment when asked if it will only be full beans above 80% battery

the_amazing_raisin · 15-09-2023 10:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111802#Comment_121111802

I wouldn't say it's a very accurate test, but it should be enough for a quick sanity check. The change in weather today definitely threw mine off a good bit

I agree cars from 2021 should be fine, the biggest issue might be because of a bad battery cell which should be replaced under warranty. Checking the VIN against any open recalls should be able to confirm this

The problem with the Aviloo test is that it can be pretty expensive and you need to bring the car to one of the test partners (I think there's only two at the moment)

A simple OBD scanner can tell you a lot but will generally just be based on the car's BMS data

ted1 · 15-09-2023 12:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121112298#Comment_121112298

I like the gear switch where it is at the moment. And have no issue with the 3 window buttons. Saves my opening the rear by mistake.

I wonder what the kWh/100 at 180km…

joe1303l · 15-09-2023 12:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121112489#Comment_121112489

Pretty sure the Aviloo test can be done yourself by ordering a kit from their webshop, plugging it into the OBD port for a few days and sending it back. Bjorn from YT did a review. I think it cost €99. It’s not a lot of money in the context of a €50K EV.

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