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i think you said back a few pages you were part of ifa for a while or I might have the wrong poster. Do you think farmers are best positioned to represent farmers in negotiations with government, processors etc…
I don’t think farmers see the value of proper representation, you said there they through out one rep over a few euro it seems to me a lot of farmers would rather complain about poor representation than pay for proper representation.
Is that my point exactly they are not up to the task on co op boards either Negotiating with top business men. This has been proven by Kerry milk suppliers this year with the leading milk price issue. Fine having elected farmer reps but they should not be doing the representing they would be fine in a middleman role between farmers and qualified representation but farmers don’t ever want to pay for proper representation…
There's paid staff there well qualified to negotiate in all the different commodities and legal advice onsite as well.
Farmers themselves fucked out one of the best over a few euro
No different from boards of coops having farmer elected reps ….it’s a good thing and good to have people in these positions with skin in the game ……unfpurtnately lots get too comfy in these positions and can loose focus ….there big commitments and you’d need to have a lot of help for when your not around …..lots of very good young people with young families and developing farms just don’t have the time
https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/residential/arid-41182153.html
I heard it was leitrim
Where did they buy this land?
Fair play lad i totally respect u and all u have achieved top man
Much the same plus an amalgamation between families
Im no fan of ifa but infairness to them have they not got people already employed behind the scenes that are there after presidents and chairmen move on
they must be worried about the nitrates😁
I don’t disagree with you GTM re the govt but I just can’t understand how farmers can allow farmers to negotiate on their behalf with the government as is the current setup with the ifa. Memberships would be a lot better spent paying for external parties with backgrounds in deal brokering and negotiating on a much higher level to represent farmers. The people nominated to represent farmers in these situations could be paid and ratified by members in an election like system.
The current setup which we’ve had for years is the equivalent of sending junior b hurlers into an all Ireland final in croke park, times have changed and so should our representation and the way it operates.
Fair play to them
Coolmore after buying another 750 acres in the golden vale.
I inherited my farm sold a a fair few sites during the boom got to buy a farm in 2012.How didvyou come to have over 2000acres owned if u dont mind me asking thanks
The government and namely the minister have been dishonest Jack98
that’s the issue. How can the Ifa lobby if the minister is being sly and dishonest about what the situation is
Derogation is gone because water quality won't improve unless the government cpo or rent the riverbanks off farmers at a high price. Too many farmers spreading slurry up to the bank of the river and nearly the same with fertiliser. Only answer I can see is take the land off them in the way of an index based rent like the solar contracts and let them graze it or cut hay off it in extreme weather years.
This shite talk about holidays is utterly pointless. Contribute to the discussion or **** off. So far it's digs at other posters, playing the great farmer and not a peep out of how ya became such in order to maybe educate the less fortunate. It's pretty tiresome and the discussion on this thread is a joke since ya joined in.
It’s the chemical N allowance plus the organic N allowance
250 organic N plus 190 chemical N
That rhetoric reasonates with a lot of farmers but the ifa will not achieve this on our behalf, cullinan is completely and utterly inept in his role. If the ifa is meant to represent farmers they are as culpable as the govt for the lack of transparency with farmers. Surely it is their job also to interact with the govt on pressing issues such as nitrates and have what’s looking like coming down the line communicated to farmers. Then it would be a lot easier to protest something well in advance instead of protesting after it’s already been ratified. Or alternatively protect farmers from the outfall from the removal of derogation or other such issues.
Cant you boys follow charlie to south africa loobby him there just like u did in horse and jockey.Fbd will sponsor the the holiday
We can’t roll over either …..this govt and minister have let us down numerous times ….Charlie didn’t see fit to arm himself up with experts and travel to Brussels …..instead just went online ….shows his commitment on such an important issue …..yet he can jet off to Africa today 🙄🙄…..we’ve lost so much ground now I think deep down most of us know dero is done for in 3 years but we need to do everything to try and reverse it …..anyone spreading slurry in closed period should be shopped for it ….just not on
I think a lot of the reasoning behind not supporting the protest is because the 250 is a lost cause so why hammer on about it. Get together come up with some sort of plan to maintain 220 in 2 years time and get the wheels in motion now with govt to ensure it’s protected then that would be a much more logical approach as opposed to 30 auld lads crying over spilt milk now.
Jaysus a humongous farmer like you must be creaming it so
Huge support 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀initially there was lots of support but there antics and methods saw that support wane …..
for a big dairy farmer with a heap of cows you’ve some ammount of time on your hands ….you’ll have to take some time off here later for your weekly hammer job on farmers with your buddy
Who got these subsidies big farmers the bigger u were the more u got.No complaints from ifa.Big dairy farmers had high entitlement cus of dairy beef.Didnt have to keep beef switched to dairy they were great times if u were a big farmer alright
Did u see the beefplan protests they hadh huge support from family farms there was no problem getting people to stand at factory gates
A pretty fair synopsis there …..I asked around to see if I could gather a few heads to go to horse and jockey …..majority had excuses most just couldn’t be arsed and will be whinging and moaning about IFA been too late etc ……but nothing about why they wouldn’t get off there arse and go join a protest for a few hours ……the easiest thing to do is give out ….do nothing and then give out again ….IFA isn’t perfect but without them farmers would be in some hole
We can all see that but it doesn't mean that there are not some very well intentioned people in the IFA too. I wouldn't be their biggest fan by any means but there are some people in their trying their best.
