That bull wasn’t fit to kill so your whole argument is wrong while you do have a few fair statements there you are still off with a lot of them
If I get time I’ll keep an eye on one of the marts online tomorrow and I’ll pick out a few lots where there’s that type of money to made on them for a man with a good relationship with the procurement manager, meaning he’ll get qa without the 70 day limit or that type of thing.
You just need to have the money in the bank to be able to buy them!
I wasn’t referencing that bull in particular with what I was saying, more of a general observation of what lads do when selling in the mart.
There’s lads that go bust at every game, not just in farming terms either.
* I meant that to be an edit to my previous reply to your post, don’t know why it came up as a new reply.
I see a lot of finished and semi finished cattle that are sold 150-200/ head jess than factory price. At present there is processors buying direct from marts. 2 weeks ago nearly even finished cattle had a margin on them for direct slaughter
Going to the mart suits our system and my OH much better than sending finished animals to the factory at the moment, he can go to the mart the week that suits him with a number of animals that suits our system and can transport them himself.
If not happy with the price offered he can bring them home again & if sold, the money is in the bank account on the following Tuesday.
THERES a guy on TikTok with 13-14 month charolais bulls 600 kg taking 2.70 kg in the mart for them . Leaving serious money behind him,
Maybe but it depends on their situation. To go further what’s required - time, feed, shed space, Bord Bia, quantity …
Sometimes it’s easier to take the hit the first day
I watched some of Dungarvan Mart earlier - few prices below. Nothing spectacular but even I could see that FR bullocks out of Hol-BF cows sold well. The suckler-bred stock did well too. You wouldn't usually get many of them in Dungarvan.
If he is leaving that much behind him then why are more lads not queuing up to buy them in the mart.
I see plenty of lads giving out that cattle are too dear to buy, the price you pay for them should'nt be the problem, it's the up the food chain we need to be looking at.
Everyone is squeezing the man below him for a few pound, it the boys on top that need to be squeezed.
Bulls are awkward to do anything with dont blame anyone for not wanting to be messing with them. If the like of me was to go buying them , ive lost out on a few kg from the messing in the mart, I wouldnt have QA id have to put a price on my time and getting them home . Not much left for a lad trying to flip them who isnt a procurement manager. but them things add up fast . 62% at 4.90/kg is over 3/kg straight away. and 30c on a 600kg beast is 180£ and thats below the average price and that isnt a crazy killout for a young bulls mart weight
Would the average continental at 600kg have the flesh cover to kill out at 62%?
Whilst it might not suit yourself bass or others who run a lower cost system, there are men at it who have had a good run of it the last while. And by the way the heavy young bull is selling are backing it been a similar market to that in spring of 2024. Whilst they might take up shed space versus smaller frame stock the turnaround is shorter and they are likely turning them around in half the time. Not saying its the only way to skin a cat but this is why the bigger prices are floating around and lads aren't see the rational for it.
i wouldnt like to put up the video but they were in shed ad lib and fat wide stumps
No he’d do well to kill 55% you’d want a miller to kill 62%
I haven’t seen the stock in question but if they’re U grades they’ll kill out closer to 65% than 55% of mart weight.
R grade continentals here are all killing out 56-58% of yard weight, U grades 57-60%. That’d be the equivalent of 62-65% of mart weight depending on the length of time from loading to selling.
i had an 11 year old cow kill 54% mart weight 419 dead weight, 770 mart weight. R= 2+ off grass. what do you think a young bull would kill off meal
Depends how good he is in confirmation and flesh
You are correct....but farmers never win against the factories....only wins the farmer has is against each other....dog eat dog
SAMPLE WEANLING PRICES FROM 12.9: BULLS: LMX 425kg €1510, CHX - 434kg €1440 267kg €910, BBX 350kg €1440, AAX 386kg €1360 354kg €1100 - HEIFERS: BBX 288kg €1080, CHX 248kg €850 305kg €850, LMX 338kg €1020, AAX 338kg €860. NEXT SALE 19.09.23
Kanturk Mart
How do you squeeze the boys at the top? Easy squeeze the boys below.
The same way they squeeze us, by controlling supply.
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And in some marts it’s the same men for the last twenty years . They have both mart costs and factory costs plus transport ( and associated weight loss ) and still make money . Farmers lose big time on a lot of finished cattle being sold in marts .
The issue for a lot of farmers is getting the cattle to the factory if you only have a few at a time .
Saw a Jan 2023 all black BB bull , 590kg make 1770 in Gort tonight. I didn't watch many, but that one stood out. Would those kind of weights for age, not trigger an inspection?
It would make u wonder, if he did 2kg a day thats 480 kg which would mean he weighted 110kg at birth.
I've seen worse, i was selling cattle last May and i was waiting in the box for my ones to come through, anyway the buck before me had about 20 bullocks to sell, oddly enough they were all born the same day, according to the cards they were 4 months old weighing on average 350kg-400kg and not a single nut did they see in their lives, they were shook looking. they were easily year olds.
One you'd give the benefit of the doubt but 20 was taking the piss.
Anyway that BB, was he out of a suckler or dairy?
Board said Breed BBX, Cow LMX. Deffo a suckler.
He must have brought a lot more LM with him that the Blue for that price.
