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Irish hoteliers and others are back blaming the bad weather for their fall in custom, and not their own prices or charges.
What are your own experiences of excessive prices being charged in Ireland relative to the rest of the EU?
Yeah, it's a great big 'nothing burger', which is only a little cheaper than a gourmet burger in most places tbh.
The correct answer is Dash Burger anyway.
Nice burgers.
But they're put up their prices. And very basic service.
Your post doesn’t make sense. It is not the gougers that are/ will be insolvent. Surely, if your business is in trouble and you can reduce your profit to save your business, you do it.
Usually go down the country every Saturday morning to visit relatives. Normally we stop in a place half way for breakfast. Kind of like a family tradition.
The place we usually stopped the breakfast went up by a fiver per head over the last year so we found another place. Last week that one increased the prices too. Now we will just have breakfast before we leave. Its just getting too expensive for the treat, so the treat has to go.
And i mentioned a week or so back on here, another place very close by, 19 euro for a roast beef Sunday dinner ! I am sure you will know the name of it , 5 minutes away by car.
Takes 8-12 minutes to knock up a pasta dish at home that costs about 20c per portion. Bought 1KG of spaghetti in Tesco yesterday for €1.19. Enough to feed 10 people - bit of garlic, oil, chili and parmesan. Lovely.
But I'm not paying commercial rates on electricity, gas, management fees, rent, wages, food wastage etc.
Bit dangerous branding all hospitality a rip off. The good places usually aren't a rip off. But people paying 19.50 for burgers in pubs, its their own fault. Stop buying them and the pubs will stop charging as much.
Was looking at doing a staycation somewhere in Ireland (anywhere) with the missus at the start of the summer, 2 nights in Ireland was costing the same as a 5 nights on the continent. Something seriously wrong there.
Probably find the market of people who came home from work and said I’m not in the mood of cooking and head down the road for dinner instead has fallen away.
Pasta dish for €20 is bit much. Probably a few euro in ingredients. If it cost €8 to make it’s still a nice mark up
comes from the Old French word “morgage”, which directly translates to “dead pledge”. (The prefix of the word, “mort”, means dead, while the suffix, “gage”, means pledge.)
...i beg to differ, like many sectors, some are flying, while many are struggling....
apologies if i posted this before, but its worth listening to, insurance and energy costs are flooring these sectors....
I see we've reached the "everything's grand, sure it's just people moaning" stage of the thread.
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Hospitality isn't struggling though. Maybe the rural pub is dying but other sectors are flying. Plenty of people have money to spend so that's the target market.
Fixing is more complex than that. With hindsight of course its easy to say you should have fixed 2 years ago but back then how many people foresaw where interest rates would end up now? Fix at the wrong time and you end up locked into a rate that is too high and paying more than you should.
There are whole sections of the asset management industry speculating on interest rates and even they don't get it right all the time, what chance has the average consumer to predict rates.
I am not anti-fixed rates either, I fixed my own 10 months ago from a decent tracker but it was a judgement call and I wont really know for a few years if it was cheaper over the long term (although it gives me some certainty on payments for the next few years which has its own value).
Not really.
Its not confusing at all.
If you were on a variable and you listened to the fact we have had historically low interest rates in the EU for a number of years and inflation is becoming a worry- then it doesn’t take much to realise it’s time to fix- if that’s an option for you.
yup, if we dont try make these folks lives more comfortable, it ll be more than just the hospitality sectors that ll be struggling! all businesses require customers spending, and if they re not, businesses start closing, and then.....
...ah yea, lets blame the people, that helps! the whole mortgage system is deliberately designed to be confusing, so people simply wont change, and if folks think things are gonna stay like this, where these, primarily younger generations, are just gonna lie down and take this, keep watching the rise of the alternatives, the extremes, its on the way, including here for ireland!
Yes thats the type. Simply can't afford to go out and socialise frequently.
It's really not the restaurant or pubs fault that these people are in this predicament.
Their customers are the ones who can afford to frequent their premises, no point worrying about the people who are strapped for cash.
We have an app done by a local guy where everyone just puts in if they would like a lift to the airport. You can respond and say i'll take you. Then when you are going someone will take you or pick you up from it too. Works well. I asked him why he doesnt roll this out and he said its a local thinbg because if he rolls it out it will get shut down by vested interests.
Mortgage rates?
If people were in a position where they could fix two years ago but didn’t they can’t really give out too much though.
....maybe the miserable ones are struggling to pay the rent or mortgage, and with rates looking like theyre gonna remain elevated.....
Ah here- the morgues not shite!
It can be a bit dead but it’s not shite……….
I’ll get my 🧥
It's clear this thread is full of people who haven't a clue how things work or how difficult it is to run a hospitality business.
Your last sentence sums it up. Plenty of people can well afford to eat and drink out and enjoy themselves.
Then you have the miserable folk who spend the whole time moaning because they just can't afford it.
We've got amazing places to eat in this country. And really keen prices too. The last 20 years has been a revoluton. Fantastic to see and a huge achievement countrywide.
Couple Ive been to recently like Il Vicoletto (€16.50 for a huge portion of ragu), Pi pizza (€15 for a top tier pizza), Mr S (€31 for 2 courses - octopus starter and beef short rib main) etc but people are paying 20 quid for chicken burgers in shite pubs. 😕
You got it!
Gone are the days of going out for food and pints. It's one or the other now and even that's becoming less of a thing. We have to be one of the most expensive places in Europe for shite food.
Has to be the place which "renowned " itself on the best steaks in the area for years... few minutes outside Drogheda northbound ?
I was in a restaurant yesterday (Co Louth) and that's the sort of price range I saw - burger or chicken burger 19 euro (was 16.95 a few weeks ago), chicken maryland 20 euro (up from 17.95). It's nice food, and there's plenty of it, but still....
There's a 20 oz steak on the menu too.... €50.50 !
The place was full too!
Its starting to ramp up already in 2023 30% more insolvencies than in the same period last year and the hospitality sector has 3 fold increase and this before the winter and the oncoming increase in energy and petrol/oil. The gougers are going to be decimated over the next year or 2.
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