The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
I thought the poles were for wrapping your cable around, that's what I was told rather rudely by another EV driver who wasn't happy with my cable...
Don't be wrapping your cable around the pole, there's a low chance of it really being a problem but a coiled cable can overheat.
home made induction coil!!
That's a great idea actually, why didn't I think of that!
I wonder could you make some sort of solenoid and get the cables to jump off the pole 🤔
Yeah we both know that's not what you were told 😉
Those right hand spaces for each charger are going to be a pain
It looks like you can't even get all the way into the space, so you'll end up sticking out
I don't see a Tesla being able to use that side without doing some BMW parking
ID.4, Ioniq 5 and similar cars will end up sticking out of the space
If they'd angled the chargers to match the spaces it wouldn't be so bad, at least the cables might reach then
I guess Ecars were doing too good a job and had to balance things out 😂
not a 50Hz. At 10kHz you can melt the pole thoug. Does it count?
Tesla's (and cars with similar chargeport location) should park like BMW's and post pictures to the ecars Facebook, Twitter etc page to show the stupidity of it all
Don't f**king encourage them 😂
Wait until an E-tron or BMW parks there, pretty sure the only way they'll be able to plug in will be to park across two spaces or at a right angle to the way the lines go
Normal BMW parking then 🤣
Or maybe just pull in and post a photo of you holding the plug scratching your head
all sides are CHADeMo and CCS does that mean 4 cables on each box (2x cha 2x ccs) or each box can support at most one CCS ?
Induction coils work on DC, I was using an AC charger, Mr smart arse. What you were trying to be smart about is a transformer.
Another boards smart arse who doesn't understand the difference between AC and DC... A solenoid only works on DC.
Though is the word you're trying to spell there👍
It was a 16A AC only car, I couldn't see that happening.
In my defense you didn't specify it was an AC charger, and since we'd been talking about DC chargers you'll have to forgive me jumping to the wrong conclusion 😝
It's the cable that will make the difference rather than what the car's onboard charger is capable of, a properly certified cable shouldn't have any issues.
A single phase 16A cable will have much smaller conductors than a 3 phase 32A cable that's often supplied with 11kW AC cars.
It was the cable that came with the car I'm sure it was ok. It was a 16A single phase.
Strange, I thought it was about the poles at chargers...
Induction coils only work when there's a changing electrical field, so they technically only work with AC. Coils powered from DC sources use a device that constantly interrupts the supply.
And if solenoids only work with DC, then why can they be controlled with PWM signals?
Jeez, no need to be a gowl - you didn't specify what kind of charger you were at.
You're confusing an induction coil with a transformer. A collapsing electrical field isn't AC the current in the primary winding of an induction coil always travels in the same direction, which, as you say is switched on and off externally inducing a current in the nearby secondary winding.
Pwm is DC.
You're right. Mea culpa. I have no excuse.
Why do you think solenoids don't work in AC? Do AC valves or the induction hobs not work in AC? You know what it doesn't matter.
We're going very off-topic here, but the application of the induction coil you're talking about essentially behaves as a transformer, as in stepping up and down voltages. I, and I believe others, were talking about induction coils used for heating.
For all intents and purposes, a rapidly switched DC power source will behave like AC, even though the current itself isn't alternating. If you had straight DC there would be no current induced in the secondary, so I think to say that induction coils only work with DC is a bit of a misnomer, I bet if you did put AC into the type of induction coil you're talking about it would work.
A solenoid can't work on AC. Anyway it's getting late and enough is enough.
Considering it started from a charging cable coiled around a pole I don't think it is off topic.
A solenoid works in AC. I don't know why would you think that it is not the case. . A short google search found me this
or one can buy this
Regarding
This is again wrong. Here it is Wikipedia page on the subject. The first picture on it
The error comes from the assumption that AC needs to be sinusoidal which is not true. AC can be triangular, square or any other shape as long as the current changes direction alternatively.
Christ lads, leave it. The facts are that you just aren't going to induce any current in a coiled EV wire - pole or no pole - as the L and N are bundled together and they effectively counteract each other. So the waffle above is null & void. 👍️
Let the normal programming (eCars whinging) resume please. 😀
it was actually just a tongue in cheek remark meant as a bit of a humorous response, but I see you've been offended by it so my apologies.
The main argument against coiled cables is heat dissipation rather than an induced current. For a given rating of cable you reduce it's current carrying capacity based on the number of coils to safely disperse the heat generated by the resistance of the cable. If you've got a 16A cable with 10 tightly wrapped coils it's now only safe for a sustained load of 8A.
The net result being there is no way eCars are deploying poles for wire coiling, they are purely there for physical protection of the charging equipment.
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