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Irish hoteliers and others are back blaming the bad weather for their fall in custom, and not their own prices or charges.
What are your own experiences of excessive prices being charged in Ireland relative to the rest of the EU?
Not a bad price for a fillet steak. Not sure why anyone would eat in the Morgue though?!
They seem to be experts at steak, seafood, burgers, pasta and cajun food.
Any place that has that much food on the menu is bound to be shite. Place is always inexplicably jammed for their Sunday roasts too.
People are really going to have to vote with their pockets at this stage. If you have to go to the pub have food before you head out.
Chicken Curry €19.50
Lasagne €18:50
FFS. That's just pure robbery. I bet the place was fairly full though?
Yeah the gourmet burger. I see the local Macaris has it on their menu.
Fillet Steak €34, Chicken Burger €19 😀
What are you on about? I have produce selling at a certain price, the costs of producing rise constantly.
The government lowers the second reduced rate of VAT from 13.5% to 9%. This enables me for a period to absorb rising costs, minimising any increase in retail prices.
The government reverses this and puts the rate back to 13.5% - sorry but the retail prices have to rise. It's a consumer tax, you the consumer pay VAT.
Businesses would greatly prefer if there were no VAT at all. As it is, we are and I repeat unpaid tax collectors for the state. We are collecting VAT or Sales Tax from you.. and then giving it to Revenue. If you have a problem with this, go annoy your local TDs
Bunsen. End of burger debate:-)
And what’s with this trend of burgers that you need to unhinge your jaws to eat in the manner of some Amazonian reptile.
If I have to disassemble my burger to get my gob around it now becomes three dishes. A salad, a bap and a slab of beef .
Agree great steaks and great price.
Try Aldi's rib-eye steaks. Lovely and even cheaper.
"VAT is a consumer tax"
"I used reduced rate to absorb costs"
"State jacked VAT to 13.5% no way was I absorbing that"
HYPOCRITE
the ultimate gougers seem to be take aways.
At one stage a couple of years ago I could get a meal deal for two in an Indian consisting of:
two mains
two rice
chips
two starters
popadoms
chutney
naan bread
for €35 including delivery. Same order now costs €55 two years later!
Bought two bags of chips in the local chipper last Wednesday and it cost me €9! Rip off.
I suppose if people keep paying it the prices will keep going up though.
Let’s be honest, food prices, even in Supermarkets, is gone through the roof.
what I have found though, is there is less of a gap between a good restaurant and a “gastro pub”, many of which are just mehhh! I don’t mind spending for a treat if the food is good and would rather save for a special treat 400 on a very good meal for 2 than spend 120 -150 on a mediocre gastro pub.
Something can be expensive, but still good value, if that makes sense.
I dunno, maybe if you were paying commercial energy rates, paying for commercial equipment, paying staff to cook your meal, paying staff to serve it, paying staff to clean up, paying insurance on a commercial property, paying rent for using your kitchen and dining room, paying council rates on the area you cooked your meal in, etc, etc, and paying those even at times when you aren’t cooking, do you still think it would cost €26.
It doesn’t bother me, I just think it is bizarre that you think the cost of cooking a meal in your kitchen is in any way comparable to the costs involved in cooking the same meal in a cafe/restaurant/hotel.
A lot dearer I would think, taking into account all direct and indirect costs.
Sorry for bothering you with my "nonsense", how much do you reckon a hotel can make 6 chicken and ham dinners for? Cheaper or dearer than €26?
Why do people compare the costs of preparing a meal in their kitchen with that of a commercial provider? It is utter nonsense, it’s almost like they assume the cost of buying the ingredients is the only cost involved. Bizarre.
Updated with a link.
Made the dinner today and it consisted of a fillet of ham, a cooked chicken from Dunnes, mash, roasters,stuffing,cabbage, carrots, gravy and bread sauce. Thought of this thread and decided to add up what it cost, this was a dinner for 6 adults and the whole lot cost 26 euro to buy and you can beat your ass it doesn't cost a hotel 26 euro to put 6 platefuls of food out.
Poor gouging on in a lot of places.
P.S some ham and stuffing left over for sandwiches.
But that's how VAT works - it's a consumer tax, at whatever rate paid on the total.
Look at motor fuels, the gov put more duty/ carbon taxes on them, the price/ltr goes up and then VAT is charged on top of the increases.
There's been a lot of price inflation recently for both consumers and businesses. As someone running a small business I used the reduced rate of VAT to absorb some of the increased costs but feck it, when the state jacked VAT back to 13.5%, now way was I absorbing that and the produce costs more now to the consumer.
VAT is a state tax, so if you annoyed about it, go bother the politicians - not the people who have to collect it and then pay it onto revenue. We only act as unpaid tax collectors.
Be great if people named the places they found good value. Reward the proprietors.
I’m certainly not either in the military nor the Taoiseach, lol. The conference is the combined AGM and a seminar by the MS Society, who informed participants that if they the contacted hotel early enough by phone there was a single rate of €140 on B&B, although limited availability. There seemed to be a lot of confusion when I called, but bottom line was “sorry but none of those rooms is available”, so had to go online and book as normal. If the conference were in Norway I’d only have the cost of the flights as added extras and some of that would be absorbed by the cheaper price of the hotel. It’s just such an irony as I used to think of my trips to Norway as being a little exorbitant.
This is true. Last time I was in Westport, with a bit of looking, there was good food for good value to be found. Of course there were gougers also so definitely some shopping around pays off.
Had a lovely lunch with the wife today 20 minutes outside Dublin.
1 burger with sweet potato fries, BLT with chips, 2 ice lattes, 2 regular lattes and a desert. 47 euro. Link below on Kilcock. https://www.ryerivercafe.com/
The food was unbelievable, brought our dog and had a walk after. Some places are gouging no doubt about it but there is some nicely priced and good services if you search for it.
Had breakfast yesterday West Dublin, 3 people including coffees 30 euro and that included tip.
Updated to include cafe I went too
It’s only win win if people pay the prices charged, and if they do, then it’s the correct move by the business.
You do that.
It has ever been thus.
Some businesses go for the high margin, low volume trade, and others do it differently.
In a free market, those that get it right survive.
I’ve been to Paris a number of times at sporting events and around the tourist areas you can find some reasonable faire, and some extortionate prices for Shiite food. Over on the rugby forum you will find fans saying they are being charged €8 per pint, I was charged more than that in Montmartre, their tourist equivalent of Templebar. So posting about a restaurant offering a meal at a certain price provides no context of value.
Edit: a poster in Paris has just said it’s €10 a pint at stadium.
To the contrary but if it is the goal then it should be made differently like, reducing tax on business with some criteria to target the businesses the State wants to help. I don’t like seeing these measures advertised as good news for consumers when in reality, we don’t get any benefits from it. This VAT decrease is one example but there are many more like this.
Main course in large restaurant in central Paris = 9.50 to 12.50.
I was in this place in July.
Three course meal in pub/cafe in central Paris = 20 euro.
Their labour costs are higher than here, yet these prices are available.
Not much space in the pub/cafe, your table will be pushed up against another one.
https://goo.gl/maps/pdQhcxTL4d3NL9ZHA
17e in 2020, 20 euro by 2023.
You don’t think businesses continuing to trade helps those consumers that rely on their wages from said businesses?
I'll screenshot that to send to the Restaurant Association of Ireland next time they're out whinging about the number of restaurants that close in the next few months.
That's business lads.
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