Start collecting every diesel receipt you can. Family,friends, neighbors all expenses
Fair play
Local man took yard and 290 acres for 380 an acre. 7 year lease.Sfp goes to land owner.
He rang me today to see if i would have an interest in leasing some of the yard or knew someone who would.
He is brave
is he dairying, tillage or beef. was it bravery or stupidity. 110K/year and he is handing them the sfp. only one winneer there I think
That's a nice yield. Did you feed much to achieve that?
We did 4.61 bf and 3.78 pr for the year 566 kgs on the coop report. Will be around 570 kgs this year I’d say
In top band, are ye above 220?
He milks 250 on his own and is partnership with the brother at tillage
Yep and loosing some land next year we’ve had for 10 years bit of a dose but we’ll sort it some way
Theirs going to be a significant per acre payment on tillage ground going forward I'd say of 150-200 a acre for tillage ground going by the journal this week, ground will probably end up costing him circa 200 a acre and he's futured proofed the dairy side with enough ground to hold numbers if derogation goes, having the brother at tillage and in a partnership is fair cute with the current state of play
Lost a block here, was asked what Id give and 300 a acre plus sfp back was the max i said id go, auctioneer has him convinced 400 plus will be got no issue, 300 was to much for it to be honest its 15% space for nature, very middling late wet ground and the slatted unit yard/silage slab isn't allowed to be used....
If I where you whatever your going to do I'd get it done before charlie rolls out his acres for tillage farmers, it will put ground up past 400 plus a acre anywhere that can be put into crops, combined with dairy farmers competing as well
fair play. What type of are sire are using if you don't mind me asking, hi ebi, Holstien, mixture of both.
Why, what’s your thinking there?
Are they planning on giving tillage farmers some kinda handout?
Yep, tanks of giving them 150-200€ per ac flat rate payment
think I’ll set up a tillage enterprise along side the dairy
Working on something atm alright. Might be able to work something with my BIL either
the grandson of the lady that owns the land wants to have a go at farming. Can’t do much about it. I told him it won’t be easy but don’t want to be a bollix about it either
Even from a straw point of view it'd make more sense to have your own guaranteed. All the talk this year would frighten you of availability into the future.
It's what will happen anyway. Those strong enough livestock producers will be taking land for tillage.
It won't be limited to 100% only tillage farmers.
If a combi crop could be harvested and straw used it would be perfect.
As all the diesel used now is full excuse fuel if you can get receipts for diesel used in cars the technically you could write it off against farming expenses. Problem is there is only so many dub 100 euro cash receipts you can use.
However I think you have employee's. If you had a tank I. The yard and were selling it for 2-3c/ L less than the local stations you might convert a 1O+K euro farm expense into cash.
Problem is too many might know about it. Fall out with an employee and he might inform revenue authority
Herd was fully British fresian base but started using holstein 15 years ago and have a nice balanced cow that suits us.
Don't follow ebi at all. Herd has an ebi of 116. Bottom 25 % of herds on co-op report. Ebi of inseminations last year was 236 which was only 2 star on co-op report or the bottom 28%.
5 star on co-op report for fat and protein kg/cow, liters/cow, milk price received and calving interval.
I've never seen the return between ebi and results in the milk tank here.
Use a lot of the holsteins at the back of the book in ai catalogue and a holstein stock bull.
Everyone is different on their farm. I've never grass measured, have set paddocks not a strip wires, don't milk record, use a fresian stock bull as well as ai etc but get results that works for us.
Yeah well I get straw off him already. Im
not too interested in becoming a tillage farmer but it’s one option if I want to hold onto my current cow numbers
If you went into a partnership on paper with the bil, can you use his land in the partnership to spread your cows nitrates over, no brainer if your taking straw/getting maize/wholecrop of him with slurry going the other way too, is his ground within the 30km limit to do the above
Is the 30km limit looking like being implemented in the near future too had heard it mentioned before but nothing materialized I believe?
You can guarantee it will come in. Otherwise there’ll be wholesale bullshiting going on next year.
If you're vehicles are all burning white diesel, then every white diesel receipt could be down to the farm. I'm only thinking of small farmers like myself. There's four cars here burning white. If that came in I would buy a tank and all the diesel can go as a farm expense. Or start selling it to neighbors
It was ment to be brought in for 23 as part of the nap but was amended, to get it removed but you'd imagine it will be reinstated shortly enough
Would be a complete disaster for us our outfarm which we own is just about 30km probably a bit with it as the crow flies would bury us if it came in.
Plenty lads thinking the same. Take the land for nitrates and sow crops for forage and grain crops to cover costs a bit. Tillage farmers wont like it, but they have been very anti dairy farmer.
We need eachother.
Farming is farming.
Just work out your meal requirement for the year or straw or whatever.
Lads on here dreaming of a tillage subsidy so they can justify paying crazy money for leased land for the privelige of milking more cows. Where did that idea come from, the same place as the beef retirement and dairy retirement scheme. Do they think the minister has found a magic money tree. The minister for "waffle" knows full well that all he has to do is keep B**l s******g for another 12 months and he is out the gate with his ministerial pension.
The pending budget, is his issue though, if he doesn't come up with a tillage scheme/dairy reduction scheme funded out of it, he has run out of road, and all the promises and rhetoric the past year out of him can finally be put to bed as bulls**t....
