i did not stay there or post that only copied it.
Why didn't you ask the staff to get one of the ICE cars to move?
I stayed there before and the staff were brilliant. Couldn't do enough for us.
Weren't you leaving, I thought you didn't want to defend yourself about 10 things to 10 different people? 😉
Those are good stats and it's good to see people using a PHEV as they should be used. There's a bunch around me that get plugged in maybe twice a year
However it can't be denied that there's EVs available 2nd hand in the €20k to €25k that would handle probably 4/5 of those journeys without a charge
Okay, you like your BMW and don't want a VW? That's fine, just don't park it like a standard BMW driver
My point is that if you're going to go telling a bunch of EV drivers they're insane for being okay with occasionally stopping to charge then don't be surprised when you get a similar accusation in return
How much did the car cost you? I am not an expert on the kona, but what range has it @ 120 km/hr, ? Its small for a family?
202 bmw 225xe 19193km cost 21000 euro, got it 9th june, as of today done 3033 km, spent 134.5 euro on petrol (50,37.5,47), 33% of a tank left, 11.5 kwh/100km, 2.6 l /100km
1220 km of that was, 2 x family of 5 airport runs, 340 km each, 140 km Dublin port to home, and 400 km business trip. Some petrol use here and there, car sometimes starts for no reason I can see.
Back to school now, so I expect petrol average to go down and electrical consumption to go up.
I have charged maybe 10 kwh at ecars, got free parking with that.
I’ve owned a 300km range EV for nearly four years and it’s been fairly painless, especially compared to some of the horror stories that you read. But I still think a lot of EV owners are overly defensive about it. I own a Tesla yet very few of my trips have made use of the SuC network because they’re not where I need them so the onboard trip planner isn’t useful for those. I do most of my charging at home but I still have to plan any longer trips. I use ABRP because it’s a useful tool. We’re getting to a point where I could probably look at an eCars map and know I have to stop at one of a few locations but ABRP still has a place. We’re also still at a place where a busy charger or broker charger could make a trip a pain in the face, especially with young kids in tow.
I don’t believe it’s as bad as kanuseeme makes out and I would never buy a PHEV but neither is it at seamless as uncle and others make out.
How much thought do you think an ice driver puts in to refueling their car, honestly if its any more than 5 seconds longer than the time it takes to see a petrol station and look down at the dial, then they have spent too much time at it.
no one knows what car, range, etc, I mean a 2011 leaf might be enough for you with 50 km range,
I've a Kona. 32k km done since Jan. 300km round trip on motorways three days per week. 13 cent to charge at night at home. Don't use public network because why would I?
Now, gimme your numbers. I've seen you rabbit on about phevs for years but it's all fluffy nonsense as far as I can see. No hard numbers.
Re the PHEVs, much riskier as they've a small and highly stressed battery that's goes thru more charge cycles than a BEV unless you want to burn petrol. Then you've got a gearbox, emissions control systems and of course the engine. All potential trouble and weight. Geroutta that with your nonsense.
My reply to you wasn't about costs, it was pointing out that the ICE driver also has to consider refuelling, either before or during the trip.
And for most of my Irish trips, I just leave home above 90% and there's nothing to think about.
Didn’t realise how bad Monaghan was for a charge.
3 cars charging at ecars and 4 in the Q. No other fast chargers within 50km
Shame that the 4 AC EasyGO ones in castle Leslie were all ICE’d so couldn’t get an overnight charge
I thought your monaghan response was the best yet, now its pick on kanuseeme for pointing out some realism.
I am going, what I posted does not deserve me defending it to 10 different people on 10 different topics, it is what I said, take what you want from it.
Unkel would praise a 50 km range leaf, saying most would never need more, its true, most of the time for most of the people 50 kms is enough, unfortunately people go over 50 km sometimes.
You see now your talking sh1te, diesel does not work for short trips, any fool in the country knows that, double the problems my behind, no one said EVS have a problem beyond range, charging and degradation, a simple petrol engine is probably one of the most reliable machines in the world.
I would love to know, your car, your usage, the cost involved and see how great your own finances work out before giving financial advice to others.
Jeez I didn't realise we'd gotten on the wrong side of the fun police 😉
Perhaps our banter was a commentary on the ever increasing bar that some ICE owners set for an EV to achieve before they'll buy one
EDIT: So I went back 5 pages and couldn't find this epic voyage to Monaghan. Perhaps someone could give a TLDR of the pertinent details? Was it a big charger queue or was the charger broken or what?
Your magical car costs nothing to run? Even with solar, at some stage you paid for your fuel, your magical car needs to get home to charge also, good luck with magic at ionity.
I would call it common sense,
Before I stated a fact, problem examples were , traveling to Warsaw in one go, hauling a yacht and a caravan and frying an egg, thats not a great example in fairness, in this weather black tarmac could probably do it, but heh who am I to judge on peoples abilities.
These problems dont exist.
I suggested that some realism be used, a simple trip to Monaghan caused 7 people to wait at a charger, to charge and to wait there turn to charge, that is a problem in most peoples eyes, but no lets give a totally stupid example for range anxiety.
For my simple statement based on a post here, got 5 quotations, why ?, when the guy made it, he only got one response, its like that cant be part of reality for most of you here. more are popping up here as I write this
For sure it wont apply to me, do you think I'm stupid or something.
Just wondering what we are doing wrong, with two EVs over the last two and a half years we have never had to queue, divert, or use ABRP. We do however stop occasionally...☺️
Edit. 3 and a half years, time flies.....
... haven't you got the worst of both worlds though with a miserable 30-50km on battery and then having to burn petrol in a fairly inefficient vehicle. I wouldn't be pointing and laughing at BEV drivers if I were you. Plus, you've got double the potential problems. Doesn't make a lot of financial sense. Go full BEV or stick with diesel.
Not unless they had their own oil well and refinery at home. The fuel in their tank didn't magically get there.
Not sure why you go on about ABRP. I've never used that for any trips in the near 7 years I've had an EV as the main family car. If you do a lot of long distance driving in Ireland, get a Tesla, you will never need any app or any fob or any card for charging and on the very unlikely occasion you will have to queue to charge, it will only be for a few minutes.
Unless of course you are rich and you can afford to burn fossil fuel 😂
The moaner for lack of a better word, did not say either, I think most ice cars could do that trip easily enough from most anywhere in the country without stopping, queuing or diverting or using ABRP,
you do most of the moaning here from what i can see, about problems that a) dont really exist and b) arent an issue for you, but carry on!
I'm not from Dublin originally, ive seen enough cows and turf to do me ;)
Well you didn't specify an origin, so forgive for betting on the 40% chance you were talking about Dublin or the surrounding area 😉
Can do that all day long 😂
I can do north Dublin to Belfast and back and still have enough charge to get to work the next day.
Heck, I could do that in my 2016 EV!
Some one was moaning here about it a week or so ago, funnily enough there is more to the country than just Dublin. I can understand the leisurely trips out past the m50 to see the cows and turf, If I never saw them before I would take my time too.
I'd be happy enough just to see a lot of wired charging in the near future.....with a single payment method.
Nonsense, no-one is happy driving to Monaghan 😂
Seriously though, I can do that in one charge plus extra in a 2 year old ID.4
Dublin to monaghon is 150-160k depending on how you go, where you are starting from, a lot of EV drivers would be reasonably comfortable making that trip and back without having to worry about the largely non existing queues you mention.
I don't know, I think you should all lower your expectations, I would be happy with just traveling to Monaghan and back and not be stuck in a que or even better, just not have to think about charging, pre heating, or having to consult ABRP.
From the battery fire which happens 100% of the time 😉
and I need to be able to fry an egg on the bonnet after a 3+ hour drive...
were does de heat come from to fry me egg???
BMW offered wireless charging station install in your drive or your garage way back in 2017! Nothing new about this tech and the efficiency isn't even any worse than current wired charging. We'll see a lot of this in the near future...
