This case had been absolutely harrowing for all involved.
Those poor babies and their families.
Words cannot describe the depths of cruelty at present here. My first child was born 6 weeks early. They are so delicate and helpless.
This vermin Lucy Letby deserves to rot
Her article couldn't be published while the trial and verdicts were in progress...if she had been found not guilty...the article would probably be in praise of her and a miscarriage of justice she had to endure...not the journalists fault really.
It really is.
We all couldn't be in court to witness it first hand
It was ridiculously emotive piece for likes. Typical tabloid journalist. I'd prefer the facts and not redtop rubbish.
This doesn't mean I don't feel terrible about the whole situation.
It's a direct opinion from someone who was there watching her throughout the whole trial. I enjoyed the article.
If you didn't. That's fine
No problem with you enjoying it, but you got to admit that it’s totally biased and emotionally laden to ensure clicks.
Where are they clicking?
It's a woman and mother to young babies,talking about her experience of being beside that scumbag (who killed babies in her local hospital) for over 8 months and watching grieving families pouring their heart out in court.
Course it's emotionally laden, but I enjoyed reading a first hand account of what it was like to be in the presence of a degenerate scumbag like Letby.
If she was talking about some reality TV celebrity after breaking up with hubby number 3 after a fortnight then I'd probably agree with you.
When I read it, there was about 7 comment's under it, which means it was lost on daily mail readers, as there's usually thousands of comments under those articles, which are sometimes good for a laugh in fairness.
If she is unable to control her emotions to write a somewhat objective piece of journalism she is either in the wrong job or simply a gutter press author. That article provided no new insights, that’s why it gained no traction. Instead it focussed on herself and her torment following a trial/ case that nothing to do with her personally.
Not where I would want them to click
She murdered 7 newborn babies. Of course emotions will be present. We’re not robots.
No, news coverage should be objective. It’s incredibly annoying
Opinion pieces have been a thing in journalism since forever.
You realize that opinion pieces are never objective? They can’t be.
What seems to have happened here is that you are incapable for some reason of accepting that tragedies involving children cause huge emotional reactions in people. You even dismissed the victim impact statements of the bereaved parents in this case as pointless.
Even when I pointed out that the parents feel they may have gleaned some comfort from speaking their statements if they’d been allowed to verbalize their pain in the presence of their child’s murderer, you poured cold water on that.
You’ll have to accept that you are on a different wavelength to the majority of others on this.
As mentioned, it’s an opinion piece. Not all articles/news/views are going to be so cold and clinical. She murdered 7 babies and you’re constantly finding issues because some folks are showing emotion when analysing it. I don’t get this.
She's reported on the trial for 9 months, without showing any emotion. Day in and day out in the midst of all that. She's obviously well able to control her emotions.
She didn't need to do that with this piece. The facts of the trial have been reported. entirely ( mostly by her on a podcast)
Baffling that you can't see the issue with what you said. Have you never heard the expression that you can't prove a negative.
If I accuse you of something that didn't happen, it can sometimes be hard, even impossible to produce evidence that it didn't happen - only things that happen leave evidence.
As i said. It’s annoying because it’s stops people being rational.
It’s annoying you, you mean.
These last few days must have been extremely irritating for you, what with journalists and the general public at large being totally irrational and losing all objective when reporting and commentating on the motor accident deaths of so many young people including small children. Another young person has died this morning at busaras.
Why would I read about motor accidents in Ireland? That doesn’t remotely interest me and it also has nothing to do with this thread.
Well you’ll have to remain “baffled” - this is way off topic at this stage so won’t be replying anymore
Great interview on the latest episode of the Letby podcast if anyone wants to listen to it.
Just on a point of information, it's a fallacy that you can't prove a negative.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/0BBE48877743A318F2B9CE24F873904C/S1477175600001287a.pdf/thinking_tools_you_can_prove_a_negative.pdf
And it's not just in maths and logic that it's possible (and routine). Specifically in the legal system, there's plenty of scope to introduce evidence to show that someone could not possibly have done the thing they were accused of.
I'm absolutely lost.
Innocent until proven guilty? Not proving a negative.
Maths, lost again.
Reports today that Countess of Chester hospital is being investigated for corporate manslaughter. Rightly so. There were a number of enablers around Miss Letby.
I watched a Danish series on Netflix called The Nurse . Based on a true case in Denmark and she was also enabled by management .
Good news. I sincerely hope these enablers are held accountable in some way.
Any individuals found to have acted improperly should face some justice themselves. I hope it all doesn't fall onto the hospital
Just finished this article. Looks like a significant miscarriage of justice, and all of the trappings of British law and state apparatus working away to prevent any analysis and potential criticism of the guilty verdict.
A really fascinating read I to say. I knew very little about the case apart from the headlines, but a chilling read that really woukd not make you have much trust in the Chesire police.
Former Conservative Minister David Davis MP has rather surprisingly taken an interest in the case and tabled a HoC question about the NY article saying it "raised enormous concerns about both the logic and competence of the statistical evidence that was a central part of that trial".
Video of his question here.
https://unherd.com/newsroom/david-davis-raises-lucy-letby-verdict-in-parliament/
