This case had been absolutely harrowing for all involved.
Those poor babies and their families.
Words cannot describe the depths of cruelty at present here. My first child was born 6 weeks early. They are so delicate and helpless.
This vermin Lucy Letby deserves to rot
Welcome to the jungle
i've met many people with serious character flaws, but heck murdering babies that's one mega-serious character flaw!
where does character flaw end and psychosis begin?
As does 99% of trials
He might be singing Out 'Ta Get Me as they tear him to pieces, but they will catch him, and they will break him, as he's not **** innocent.
Agree with what you’re saying, premature babies self inflicting injuries, as for the air in the blood. If you had to try get into a vein on a animal (sheep cow etc ) or human it is not simple let alone into a small baby it would have to be a very well trained person to do that. As for the insulin how did that get there and proven medically. The big factor is the numbers of incidents on her watch and how it dropped off when she was moved. The posters here claiming justice wasn’t served and a retrial for this poor innocent nurse should be campaign for and wanting to delve into the mental health of this thing is crazy, anybody with any decent bone in their body or compassion should be thinking of the innocent children that were harmed and killed is the biggest part of this story and their grieving family, and these children were in her care fighting to stay alive and this thing taken that from them and the children she harmed. Wake up and cop to F ck on.
She definitely was the only one to have treated those babies. She was they only one on duty for all incidents.
An alternative explantation for that means that a number of different nurses committed these offences on nights that they were on shift with Letby. I can't think of a different alternative but I'm all ears.
I hope this enquiry leads to consequences for those managers even though they have retired. Shame on them
Your post is mostly emotive nonsense
Thank you. The last few pages of this thread have appeared to have been filled with comments about Letbys possible innocence. Faith in boards community restored.
The evidence of her depravity is in articles/podcasts and YouTube videos. Google her and read the evidence. A shout in her defence, is a shout against her victims and their families. She did this. no one else did. Some people deserve our sympathy. Not her.
More rubbish
I'm not in the she's innocent camp , i merely retain some doubt as a precaution
The posters labelling everyone doubting the conviction as loons should at least post some intelligible arguments
To be fair doubt would usually require some tangible reason to doubt…
all info is pointing to her being a psycho killer..
I think the mental health bandwagoners would be quite delighted to see her absolved from responsibility…in their eyes there is just no ‘wrongdoing’ or no taking responsibility for certain people and their actions…
but that said there is no "smoking gun". a lot of the prosecution seemed to rest of circumstantial evidence, and i for one do not believe you should send someone away for life on circumstantial evidence (aka pointing arrows).
That’s what the meaning of the smoking gun is though? Circumstantial evidence, as opposed to direct evidence.
She’s been found guilty on 7 counts of murder, not guilty on 2 counts of attempted murder, and the Jury failed to reach a verdict on 6 counts of attempted murder.
Which count(s) do you think were counts where you think she is most likely guilty?
I don’t see any grounds for an appeal, and the prosecution have asked for 28 days to consider a retrial for the 6 counts where the Jury failed to reach a verdict.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-65960514
Apart from that, I’ll just say this much - I was avoiding this thread because I didn’t want to know the details, just the thoughts of what she did was gruesome enough, the only comparable case I can think of was Beverley Alitt, but from the brief details I did read following her conviction, I really don’t have the stomach for being any way motivated to read about the details of the case.
Most of this thread is emotive nonsense. It’s impossible to discuss anything with such people
Wow, time to get out of here and leave to you and the other who don’t understand facts and law.
It's very obvious that a lot of posters don't know the first thing about this case, but yet are quick to decide on innocence. There was a lot more to the circumstantial evidence then 'she was working at the times'
the Trial of Lucy Letby podcast was running throughout the 9 month trial, outlining the evidence given that day in court.
1 baby death to date at that neo natal section in that hospital since she left...but maybe mothers not going there now in big numbers.
There's a simple reason for that
The unit no longer cares for very sick babies
Deaths were 2-3 a year before letby
Ok..that's understandable now ..but wasn't that section more so for the extra care for premature/twins/triplets born there moreso than sick babies
How many deaths in the 12 months she worked there then?
I don't know Google that yourself
So, not so much knowledge about the case then!
It's still running. Some interesting interviews over the last week with different people connected to the trial.
Evidence doesn't seem to matter to the people left in this thread.
Poor nice Lucy......
No empathy or respect for the victims and their families. Just trolling on a thread as if babies didn't die.
Yeah, I'm still listening to it, I find it very interesting, more fact based then some of those true crime podcasts
They had to only discuss things the jury had been told throughout the trial. They seem to have continued with an objective analysis and discussion now the witch has been sentenced.
Some of the interviews this week have been hard to listen to. She's left so many victims in her wake.
Those true crime podcasts are often too dramatised to be interesting.
Yes, and completely skewed to whatever view the podcaster wants the listener to have.
This is much better, facts as given in court.
You’re not a loon, but come across as illogically holding onto this “ever so slight chance she’s innocent.” We should just scrap justice so if that’s the best we can come up with.
She’s as guilty of this as OJ is of murder, albeit he walked!!!
she did it…
The fear of compromising the case kept the podcast focused on the facts, and it was really interesting to follow.
57 episodes so far and over listened to them all. A great podcast
Was listening to a few and whilst it was mater of fact over the trial - unfortunately as they were filling time , got a bit too casual , off topic and a bit too jokey considering the seriousness of the crimes. Whilst generally a good idea - a podcast is possibly too early in this process.
Thats almost a dictionary perfect example of circumstantial evidence.
"Lucy is innocent t shirt"?
I have clearly said that she is in all likelihood guilty in my posts, but you keep banging that drum soldier!
My point is that they still only have circumstantial evidence to "prove" her guilt. If you can find something that shows me where there is anything than circumstantial evidence, considering the judge in the case told the jury "This was a case in which the prosecution "substantially, but not wholly" relied on circumstantial evidence, he told the jury."
Remember, the judge didnt direct the jury to find her guilty.
