They have applied for permission, certainly. As with every other capital development, they are in the hands of the planning authorities in the first instance.
https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/2021/05/07/plans-lodged-for-new-100m-410-bedroom-terminal-linked-hotel-at-dublin-airport
Has that still not been approved? 🤦🏻
daa tendered for an operator and planning was approved but nothing has happened yet.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/business/green-light-given-for-dublin-airport-terminal-2-hotel-worth-e100m-1238652.html
Are there any plans to extend 28L/10R in the short to medium term? I presume if so it would be down at 10 end??
I don't think there are, but if you look through the DAA's detailed capital strategy Capital Investment Programme 2020+ which is available on their website, you'll be able to establish what the plans are for many years ahead.
Has the flight path for 28R changed? They seem to be heading out in a straight line this evening with arrivals on 28L?
Avoiding the bad pocket of weather would be my guess.
Interesting though how some went straight out and some went southwest immediately after departure while there was also a number of go arounds on the south runway. I thought that was the whole point of the right turn to avoid conflict with arrivals on go arounds.
The Philadelphia flight immediately turned left after departure from 28R while there was a greater chance of go arounds on 28L than normal due to the storm.
There were no aircraft on approach at that time, so no risk of go arounds.
Different crews will have had different Weather Radar setups and likely seen different pictures. The situation does change from minute to minute also.
different crews will have different ratings also... might not see it as much with bigger airlines, but Flybe were notorious for not being able to land in airports with fog, not because the plane hadn't the functionality, but a lot of their pilots weren't trained to land in CAT3 conditions when they got their initial ratings.
No wonder they aren't in a hurry to provide the information considering they're just ignoring the current planning restrictions anyway.
They agreed an extension with ABP in May for the provision of info by mid September! What’s the issue? They havnt provided anything because the timeline hasn’t elapsed 🤷🏻♂️
The plan to eventually have two parallel east-west runways has been in place since at least the late 60s! Which makes the NIMBYs look even more riduculous. It's how the north runway could be built with no new land take. Pity all of the land in between wasn't bought cheaply then too.
1968 map
About 8-10 years back, a (now retired) Aer Lingus captain told me that when he started his training in 1969 the cadets were shown that parallel runway proposal.
And all of those cadets were well retired before it happened!
This country really does have a problem with necessary change
Maintenance work on the old runway begins tonight I think?
Traffic currently departing from the west on 10R. Will be interesting to see if they take off on 10L after 11pm or whenever the works begin. Will be the first time we’ll have take offs on 10L if I’m not mistaken.
It's not the first time. I was present a few months back when 10L was used (for both takeoffs and landings) for a period one day while 10R was closed for an inspection.
Ryanair to Edinburgh just took off from it. Nice to see. Pity it isn’t utilised more. I think this could be the third period since it’s opened it’s had departures. Could be wrong.
Every night this week until 0430.
Living nearby, and heard the noise and thought it was the EI 757 (that is coming in to land shortly actually).
Passed through the 200 gates twice in last few days for my return BA flight to London and was surprised how shabby and unloved the whole area looked.
Rising lumps on the floor, long dank dark corridors and general lack of facilities like bar or eatery options.
Even externally it looks in poor nick with parts of the cladding peeling off.
It gives a real bad first impression for international visitors arriving in to the country.
Anyone know if there are plan to renovate or upgrade the pier?
Might be cheaper to level it and rebuild but not with the current capacity maxed out.
They put some money in over the last few years building new walkways. Always looked temporary.
Leveling it would be good. It's the old 1960s Pier A with some add ons and has always been threadbare. Looks particularly poor compared to the 100s and 400s. DAA just can't seem to get around to it....
DAA has been told its bid to buy land between the airport runways is “not acceptable and therefore rejected”, in a move raising the stakes in a sale critical to its future.
Brothers Ulick and Des McEvaddy and three co-owners put the 105-hectare landbank up for sale in May, hoping to realise €210 million or even more from their property in the centre of airport grounds.
Looks like the two sides are miles apart here.
The McEvaddy's are a bit delusional here, right?
Essentially holding the tax payer to ransom. I saw something that the Comer brothers are interested. But there's a difference between being interested and willing to squander money on over priced land that will be sterile to development.
Depends if the higher offer is real and what's pushing their desire to sell. Other bids are probably not 210M either, but they must have some other offer ahead of the DAA unless they're total spoofers. If they manage to sell for noticeably more than DAA will offer, they get a nice amount of cash right now and pass the eventual negotiation that may never need to happen on to someone else. Whether that party pays cash or uses debt might impact whether they are as happy to sit on it as indefinitely as the current owners have been.
The government won't/can't/shouldn't give them money to buy nicely located farmland so a low-ish but credible offer from DAA makes sense. DAA would surely prefer any more debt they take on to go towards more immediate development on their own land. No need to overpay now for land that they will get access (possibly expensively) to anyway if they ever justify needing it. And if they did happen to buy it they'd have difficulty even using it for car parking.
DAA have a large programme of planned capital works that they need to fund, so that has to be their first priority. It does not rely on availability of the lands owned by the McEvaddy group. I would expect the McEvaddys to sell to the DAA only if the price offered met their (probably overambitious) objective in that regard and if there was no other bidder offering similar. The media are making a big issue of this but I don't think a whole lot turns on the outcome in the foreseeable future.
How is the McEvaddy land zoned? If it's agricultural, then Fingal Co Council should leave it at that, and possibly arrange for it to be CPOd at Ag value.If it's zoned for other development the the higher the value the better, as whoever owns or buys it will have a huge vacant sites bill, and for once this vacant sites levy will e a good thing.
Zoned for airport use already; but agricultural use permitted until such time as development for airport use commences
