Sinn Fein have previous when it comes to ignoring accusations of child sexual abuse within their ranks - think of the councillor in Louth who didn't report . Gerry Adams even admitted in a blog that republicans have handled it badly in the past.
There should be questions about when and how much they knew.
Look no further than the Adams family for how they deal with child abuse in Sinn Féin.
Thomas McElwee was one of the worst of the terrorists, no remorse, no concern for victims, a true psychopath. Not a person that should be commemorated or celebrated in any way, especially while his victims are still around. Difficult for Sinn Fein to reach new lows, but they sure are trying.
There must be still a few "safe houses" knowing around.
Is it really surprising to see the Shinners commemorating a Hunger Striker, Blanch?
You can disagree with them and be outraged all you want, but it's hardly a, 'new low'.....pretty sure they do it every year, so what is new about it?
His writing around his time of death also completely undermines your statement that he was without remorse and had no concern for victims, but as with anything Republican you can't help but engage in a bit of dramatic flair and hyperbole.
are you happy that a "political party" OCG regularly organizes and celebrates their members who murdered innocent people in cold blood
i mean what did this persons death do to further the political goals ? commemorations like this are designed to influence and sucker in the next generation of fanatics. and look how well the last generation of fanatics did for the shinners ? they are still killing and innocent girls and shooting policemen with provo training ideology and equipment
Ex-Sinn Féin councillor unaware of driving ban due to ‘high volume of post’ he received | Independent.ie
another shinner who doesn't think the law is for him only for us , too busy to open his post lol and still and eager and active party members it seems
Yeah, he was a really nice man, burned to death a young mother working in a shop, who died saving her child. One of the good ones, as Gerry Adams might say. Republicans really need to get a hold of themselves and reflect on what they say and do to commemorate. These incidents are still very raw for the victims.
Oh Christ no, not in the slightest. Not even remotely supportive of it. One of many factors in why I won't vote for them.
But something they do every year can hardly be described as a, 'new low'.....it's par for the course with SF to be honest.
I didn't say he was a nice man, I pointed out blatant inaccuracies in your post as you eternally strain to be hyperbolic about SF. I asked how something that happens EVERY YEAR can be described as a new low? Danny Morrison spoke at the man's funeral, there is absolutely nothing new about the Shinners commemorating Hunger Strikers.
I pointed out that your description of him as being without remorse is demonstrably incorrect based on his own writing. Absolutely nothing in my post said he was a nice man.
It is entirely possible to condemn and disapprove without resorting to hyperbole or outright lies like you always do.
The Shinners eulogising lads who were involved in sectarian murders is a strange way of building cross community support and the First Minister for all line.
The Felons Club beardy lads still calling the shots it would appear. Lot of sociopathy there.
SF are a massive barrier to any eventual UI. They just can’t help themselves.
Without remorse is incorrect?
Not mentioned here, but "On another occasion, he knocked out several teeth of a guard who had pushed him". Hardly the actions of a man who had changed his ways. Once a psychopath, always a psychopath.
100% true. Plus they are also a barrier to the progress of Northern Ireland. Let's hope we don't get dragged down this side of the border as well.
Punching a man who has already attacked you or who has just dumped your meal on a urine soaked floor doesn't seem particularly psychopathic behaviour to me, Blanch. Then again, you'll only see what you want to see.
Instead of going cherry picking for things to support an argument, put that Google-Fu to use and look for his final writings. While one could certainly argue the whys around remorse (with his life coming to an end, perhaps there were some thoughts of what comes next at play), but yes; without remorse is unequivocally incorrect. Thomas McElwee absolutely expressed remorse (if you wanted to really criticise the Shinners, you'd pick up on the fact that in their militant days, they tried to hide this and paint him as, 'broken yet unbowed', but instead you'll go your usual route of course).
You STILL haven't explained how this thing the Shinners have been doing every single year is a NEW low.
Celebrating the life of a man who decided to burn a woman to death because she was a different type of Christian isn’t doing much for reunification. It’s actively damaging it tbh. The sooner Adams, Kelly, Molloy, Howell are sidelined the better it will be. There’s a lot of thuggery there.
Quite simply, after MON declared herself to be First Minister for all, and nobody forced herself to say that, it is a new low in the context of that statement.
Thomas McElwee got scared in his last few hours and days, but that wasn't remorse, that was fear of death. True remorse would have seen him come off the hunger strike.
Nonsense, but unsurprising from you Blanch.
As I said, feel free to condemn and criticise.....but as it isn't, 'new', describing it as a ,'new low' is obviously ridiculous.
For the record, this is the second time they've commemorated Thomas McElwee since MON declared herself, 'First Minister for All', so even with your new assertion, still isn't new.
In a world of such confusion and madness, it's somewhat refreshing to see Blanch's consistency.
Sunrise, sunset...
New low/old low - does it matter? You are focussing in on a point of semantics and dragging the discussion down a tangent. They shouldn't be commemorating this guy, he is not a hero
Maybe they shouldn't, but they have for over 40 years and will continue to do so.
The semantics matter because time and time again, the same names in this thread sit hand wringing, brimming with outrage in their little back patting circle jerk amongst eachother.....while entirely missing the point.
SF voters don't care. No amount of, 'oh but the Provos did this 30/40/50 years ago' will make a blind bit of difference; an awful lot of their voters weren't even born; it's about as relevant to them as feigning outrage about what the old IRA did while the government parties continue to commemorate them. They certainly won't be convinced when the outrage is wrapped in exaggeration, hyperbole and misdirection. New/old matters.....because the poster was going out of their way to present it as new, and continued to defend that position even when it was pointed out.
If you want a SF government in the not so distant future, by all means keep up the, 'but the Provos' arguing. I'd say we're better off focusing on the right now; their economic illiteracy, their blatant inability to deliver on the promises they're making and their continued speaking out of both sides of their mouths depending on the target audience with conflicting positions on things like immigration.
Arguments like that are preaching to the choir. You might get to feel oh-so-smug in your moral highground, but all you're doing is getting back into the back patting with people who have and will never vote for them anyway.
in your opinion.
in others opinion he is very much a hero.
no amount of fake outrage is going to change the fact that people on both sides are going to commemorate their war dead and are entitled to do so.
opinions are like a$$holes everyones got one , " dirty harry i believe said that
in reality of course commemorating and celebrating as a hero the murderer of a innocent girl is disgusting and offensive behavior and should be neither tolerated nor normalized by claiming the are entitled to do so is part of the ongoing effort by sfira to rewrite history to portray themself as the "good guy" for burning some one to death for no political reason apart from to sow terror in a community and has been covered and exposed again and again on this thread
Aoife Masterson on X: "Many BOI customers yesterday took out cash in the good faith belief they had this money. Some will now face high cost unauthorised overdraft fees & upcoming bills going unpaid until it is cleared. BOI must positively engage with customers to avoid undue hardship & distress." / X (twitter.com)
lol not only excusing and encouraging imbecilic and greedy behavior but offering to help them to ignore the consequences
talk about appealing to the lowest common denominator , populist idiot offering answers from the magic money tree , its like when Homer Simpson took got himself elected as garbage commissioner
#cantsomeoneelsedoit
#notanormalparty
There have been a lot of dumb things said in election campaigns, and Aoife wont be the first to say something dumb in an election campaign, but it did give me a laugh. People taking money they weren't entitled to were doing so "in good faith". Brain did not engage before the phone was typed on.
Are Sinn Fein actually the reason for the current monopoly of FF and FG in government?
Regardless of policies Sinn Fein are unacceptable for many people on moral grounds due to their association with the IRA in the past. That's just the reality. There is a hard cap on their electoral reach and they are not viable coalition partners for any significant parties.
It does appear there is enough support for a left leaning government in Ireland but not one that includes Sinn Fein.
I dont think many people believe that the ira is gone or that sf isnt involved deeply in crime and criminality .
The unresolved murders bombing maiming's committed for the cause is one thing but another is the ongoing persistent involvement in organized crime
as we have been reminded again and again they haven't gone away
Interesting choice of candidate. I'd have thought he was of the type that would have defected to Aontú and his views seem more than a bit at odds with the party's social stances.............. maybe they're targeting the Burke vote?
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/something-rotten-revealed-in-society-s-underbelly-1.1217849
Wow!
If that guy is an indicator of the calibre of the extra candidates they are going to have running for the various upcoming elections, perhaps they won't be achieving as much as many people seem to think ..
Sinn Fein won't care, they are delighted to get candidates like that in rural areas.
Dipping into the basket of deplorables?
It has worked elsewhere for politicians and ideologies struggling to get a majority vote behind them.
I couldn't hold my nose for some of these candidates, we're not that polarised.. yet.
That documentary should be required viewing for all those intending to vote for Sinn Fein.
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