Speaking of Melania:
In a new report that would almost have the potential to make one feel bad for Donald Trump, were Donald Trump not legitimately one of the worst people on earth, a “social source” connected to the former first lady told People that “this fourth indictment is another problem for her husband,” and not a problem “for her.” The person added that Melania “wants nothing to do with any of it,” preferring instead to “lead…her own life.” (Lest you start thinking this Mel character, what with her “Another indictment? That’s a shame. Oh, well, gotta jump,” sounds a lot less terrible than you’d previously heard, know that she also reportedly believes “there has been too much dumping on” Trump.) And when sources say Melania leads her own life, they don’t mean she, like, has her own hobbies but still spends a significant amount of quality time with her husband, especially when he is at his most vulnerable. They mean that, at a minimum, she keeps a river’s length distance between herself and the guy she’s married to
I'm sure she'll be fine , what with the "fees" from the $3B fund that Jared has magically pulled together from Middle Eastern Investors based solely on his as yet undiscovered investment maven skills and nothing whatsoever to do with favourable decisions he made or championed during his tenure as "Middle East Special Adviser to the President of the United States".
Why do I get the feeling that the second that Barron turns 18 she'll be out the door with rockets on ???
She just needs to hang out period, he'll be in jail for years. Barron is already 17. 5 years in a GA state prison, at minimum? Barron is going to get his ride through college and all before the rocket boots ever show up, and they might not ever but we will see. Depends if Melania is smartly grooming Barron not to piss off the piggy bank.
What sort of serpent can Melania be really, to submit to that orange billionaire man-child. Some seriously fked up sheeit right there... :pac
I'll leave that to Mrs Merton to answer.
Hard to head a cult of personality when you dont have any personality.
The leader is good, the leader is great, we give up our will as of this date
Na-na-na-na-na Don-nie!
Don-nie! Don-nie! BAT-MAN!
(Sorry, couldn’t help myself : D)
Ha…”The Art of Her Deal” indeed. Live in a Florida resort and not even need to inhabit the same room as the rapist loser she married (let alone share a bedroom). Suppose there’s worse fates for possibly most useless First Lady the US has seen so far. Sure knows how to take a situation “Be Best” with it, I guess.
She likely wouldn’t mind if Donnie went to jail. More Mar-a-lago for her to enjoy without having to risk looking at that cretinous bell-end.
"I don't really care, do you?"
"Bell-end" being an accurate description according to Stormy Daniels:-)
Pardoning Trump will “heal the country”
Just DQd himself from contention. I see Christie is picking up all the steam.
Christie could do well running on the outside lane.
She's the one person he hired who was actually able to do the job.
He'll be able to hoover up some votes from alienated former Republicans - the ones who believe in low taxes, small government and the good ol' USA, but have not somehow been sucked into the howling vortex of rage and capslock conspiracy theory that is Trumpism.
These people will not comprise nearly enough numbers to make it remotely realistic that Christie might challenge for the nomination, but it's enough people to profit from after the election whereby Christie sets himself up as the critical voice. He can't be so stupid or delusional as to think that he's got anything like a chance, here. It's about building that outsider platform and seeing what happens from there. The Trump sycophant space is pretty crowded and Christie got pushed out of that already. This is what's left for him.
If Trump for whatever reason is stopped from running, then a Tump lookalike won't cut it, Christie would have the space marked for himself. Has blighted his copybook somewhat but would probably be an acceptable POTUS.
More frivolous legal claims
I seem to recall there being mealy-mouthed calls for healing after the 2nd impeachment of Trump came up in the wake of Jan. 6th. Actually, maybe that was Gerald Ford after Nixon.
In any case, backing off won't work, here. The temperature is raising either way. At this stage, the only difference that jailing Trump, if convicted, would make is that it may hasten the direct confrontation with the crazies that American seems to be on a path towards. These people are not going to back down and they're not going to suddenly see reason, so I really don't know what else there is to do.
Trump, for his part, gets worse the more pressure is applied to him. He is utterly unlike anything before seen in top-level American politics.
60 Minutes ran a piece on the indictment in Georgia.
60 minutes has, to my understanding, about 4 times the viewership of Fox News.
The piece is delivered in sobering terms.
I know it'll be lost on the trump supporters and even some GOP supporters, but why would a person who hasn't been convinced or even had a trial for their indictments need to be given a pardon?
Why are those saying he should be given a pardon when they are also saying that he is innocent, especially as a pardon is given for carrying out an illegal act?
I know people have been incorrectly charged and convicted of various crimes and then get exonerated because of this, but they didn't go on TV and post/tweet/truth evidence of their involvement in the crimes that they were charged with in the first place.
I think it could be reasonable to consider a pardon for Trump (even though he is surely one of the very least deserving of such an action)
Not sure if it is seemly to be even discussing it before the trial, though as that seems to make a mockery of justice.
The reason for granting a pardon would be that it might allow the politics to become less inflamed and the divisions in society to lessen.
I would still suggest that the "man" himself would need to show some sign of genuine remorse -otherwise ,well that is probably obvious.
The little s*** is of so little consequence on a human level that little satisfaction can be afforded from his incarceration even as it is grating that he should ,if found guilty still be allowed to keep his liberty.
The Soviets had this despicable system where political opponents were afforded show trials. Maybe Trump might be called upon to undergo yearly show trials to provide entertainment for the country that he abused (a bit like the medieval stocks he probably has in mind to restore if he ever gets back into power)
What on earth would give you the idea Trump was working with Russia?
I've only read about Trump since his departure from the White House. Lord help me I'd forgotten what a clumsy, indecipherable, unintelligent waffler and word salad merchant he was. As always one wonders how people think this guy's energy is something to admire. He makes a drunken idiot in the back of a taxi look coherent.
He also looks to have aged a fair bit. He looked quite shrunken, thinner in the face - I wonder is age beginning to win out over his crude attempts to mask it. Or simply the legal peril I'd draining him. If Biden gets this constant attack over his age and cognitive decline, then the same must be laid at the feet of Trump.
The point raised from 3 minutes on this video reiterates the point that amanstu makes, the problem is not only his base's reaction if he does get imprisoned or whatever, its what/who they will follow when he is out of the picture. Its a big, rotten core in the country.
One option might be to offer him a deal to avoid prison, after his trial, if he makes an approved announcement admitting to what he did, then retires from public life, no social media, no announcements, no rallies. Call it Probation. It would stop him inflaming his followers, but make him less of a martyr. Of course, if he is found guilty of anything with a mandatory prison sentence then that creates a problem.
Amandstu: "I would still suggest that the "man" himself would need to show some sign of genuine remorse -otherwise ,well that is probably obvious."
Trump,, genuine remorse? Pigs will fly first.
Looking more gaunt.
"The point raised from 3 minutes on this video reiterates the point that amanstu makes, the problem is not only his base's reaction if he does get imprisoned or whatever, its what/who they will follow when he is out of the picture. "
Cannot get onboard with this idea. The logic appears to be that if someone has followers who can be violent, they should get better treatment?
So if Biden did the same thing, because his followers *aren't* violent, he would be jailed?
That's not what was being said, the point was that after Trump there will still be a large number of impressionable people looking for a cult leader and what they find may be an even worse option than Trump.
He should not be 'let off' but pragmatically the logistics of incarcerating an ex-President are huge (and would apply to any other President), before you even get to the martyr status it would give him. Removing him from the public eye would take his lifeblood. There would have to be legal provision for some aspects of this, but if the Republicans understood they were choosing between him wearing an orange jumpsuit and just fading from public awareness, I think they might be willing to defuse the situation.
Ideally, yes, he should be just put behind bars, but pragmatically it would have to be some sort of house arrest with no public contact.
There is no comparison between him and any other president committing offences, there has never been a president of the US who has been so vocal, so willing to lie and so determined to do any amount of damage to the country in order to get his own way. Its arguable that his sanity is in question, though I think he would be found fit to stand trial.
He absolutely should not be pardoned at any stage of the proceedings.
House him in a military base.
Case closed.
