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The dairy boom.Can we officially say its over

K.G.

Production flatlining,costs escalating,regulations squeezing ,and the biggest thing work pressure.i see very little appetite for extra cows around west cork.is the boom over.i would have serious concerns about anyone borrowing anything over 2 k a cow to get into cows at the moment.

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tanko

The “boom years” in dairying in this country were during the quota years, that’s when real money was made milking cows. Of course we were told that quotas were holding back farmers, they weren’t able to drive on like they did in the last few years producing too much milk that there’s no worthwhile market for. Without quotas dairying in Ireland is just a race to the bottom, too much greed never ends well.

orm0nd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120985740#Comment_120985740

I hope you don't get the backlash I received when I posted something similar approx 9 years. Maybe some people have taken their heads outa their rear ends since.

Yes huge money has been make since quota was abolished, most of it didn’t stay with the farmer though, last year been the exception.

K.G.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120985740#Comment_120985740

Only if you were born with the silver quota spoon in you mouth.if you hadn't quota you gave all yer days fecking around with drystock,paying for quota either leasing or purchase,drying cows early,moving milk in the dead of night and spending at least 6 months of the year wondering will there be superlevy this year. I started out with 8300 gls of quota so you ve hit a sore subject for me ,at least now you can fight the battle some fair way not according to where you were born

Wildsurfer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120986130#Comment_120986130

Amen to all that.

cosatron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120986130#Comment_120986130

some crack wasn't it. begging for quota, spending the whole winter wondering were you going to get caught with the superlevy and then the feckers turned around and lashed the superlevy on everyone when the quotas went. that was fair lousy.

Tileman

Had a few plasters here recently. Holy **** they earn some money. I’d say they are on the same as a hearth surgeon . I got 3 quotes and not allot in difference. In fairness the crowd I got were excellent. Turned up when they said they would and did a very good quality job so as my dad says a good job is never a dear job it’s only dear the day you pay for it.

no young lads doing the trades anymore. You’d wonder where they are going to get them for the future.

Grueller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120987786#Comment_120987786

Problem with the trades is that it's a complete boom and bust cycle for most. What young lad/y wants to sign up to heavy, physical work with years of near zero income? Sure s/he might as well go farming

mr.stonewall

It's the wet trades that are in trouble. No young blood in it anymore. Heaps of young guys doing plumbing and wiring

Siamsa Sessions

A few photos of the Hol-BF heifer calves. Hopefully their milk will return a decent margin in 2025, whether it’s me or someone else milking them.

farawaygrass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120987820#Comment_120987820

Heard an older Electrican saying he thinks all the young lads doing the trade now will be jockeying for jobs as they qualify, therefore keeping the wage very competitive for the lad hiring.

fulldnod

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120983926#Comment_120983926

So I have to explain the difference between the 2, that's says alot about ure level of intelligence

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120987966#Comment_120987966

I am not so sure. Certification not is big business. Many different sectors require electricians. At present technically all rental houses need an electric certificate every five year and every boiler needs certifications every 12 months. That will be enforced by insurance companies down the line.

Electricians and plumbers will remain in demand

JustJoe7240

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120987966#Comment_120987966

Possibly more likely in rural settings but still wishful thinking none the less imo . Every outfit is crying out for qualified lads, Especially in urban centres. Pharma and Manufacturing in the likes of Cork/Dublin could swallow up every lad looking for a job. Any spark looking for a job is a poor operator

Cavanjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120987786#Comment_120987786

Paid an excellent plasterer €120 a day cash in 2015/2016 to do my house. Probably 3 times that now.

Met him recently and he is after aging unreal. It’s a tough game.

Grueller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120988631#Comment_120988631

Mate of mine is a 36 year old plasterer. Looks 45 and has a f@@ked back and knees from it. Lot easier pull a few wires.

Fox Tail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120988283#Comment_120988283

Your spelling says a lot about your intelligence.

You obviously don't understand the point, either.

If a substitute replaces the original, the demand for the original has gone down. It does not matter if the substitute is not the same product as the original.

It's called evolution.

cute geoge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120988413#Comment_120988413

When did you become a legislator??

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120988910#Comment_120988910

The legislation already exists it enforced for HAP housing. However I gave heard of cases where insurance companies mentioned it in holidays home group insurance schemes.

All I saying it only a matter if time before all rental's houses have to have the already legislated requirements in place for insurance purposes.

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120987810#Comment_120987810

Tradesmen ( or is it tradesperson nowadays?) have a mercenary attitude, they make out like bandits in these times (which involves zero loyalty to any customer), during a recessionary period, they either bugger off to another country ( Australia or Canada or London) or stay here and draw the dole while doing the odd cash nixer, they never do firesale charges

Jack98

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120988700#Comment_120988700

It’s a funny one as the price of the original rises the demand for the substitute goes up in theory not sure if that can be said for the oat/almond ‘drink’ alternatives…they have a tiny matket share and little nutritional values they are a substitute in name only, labeled as ‘milks’

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120988700#Comment_120988700

Since we're going there...

Your poor grammar might say something about your intelligence. But your condescending sarcasm implies anything you say can be safely ignored.

K.G.

Let it go lads,Lassies or whatever

Donald Trump

How will the lads who outbid everyone else pushing up prices and entering into long term leases for land at silly prices going to get on next year ...........................

Tax relief won't be allowed unless a substitute is found either (probably doesn't have to be for the same money though)

Grueller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120989164#Comment_120989164

During the last recession they did firesale prices. I had a top class carpenter working for €100 per day. That is firesale.

roosterman71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120991285#Comment_120991285

Our local big dairy man is still looking for land anyway. Haven't heard what he's offering now nor do I know if he's loosing some he has rented. He's been calling into landowners around seeing what the story is anyway. We'll be getting the call soon too I guess

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120992269#Comment_120992269

He want to start doing his sums as to what pays or will not pay. Passed a farm lately and it has 50++ unroofed cubicles. Is there not a requirement that all dairy cows must be houses this year or next ???

There is outfit out there that will be dependent on the dairy cow reduction scheme to reduce numbers

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120992214#Comment_120992214

You wouldn’t get one for 300 per day cash right now

TheClubMan

Does anyone know the breakdown cost of 1 litre of milk split between the farmer, processor and the supermarket? It's very easy to find the production costs at farm level as well as average incomes but processors and supermarkets share of the pie isn't as transparent. How much does it cost a processor to get that 1 litre of milk on the supermarket shelf?

Grueller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120992988#Comment_120992988

Blocklayer/stonemason starting a small job here next week. 8.00-5.00, €200 a day through the books.

Fox Tail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120989238#Comment_120989238

They are replacing milk purchases though. Its market share. Thats all that matters.