Oh is Vivek your breath of fresh air of the month?
41 counts in the Georgia indictment means that Donald Trump now has 111 charges across 4 indictments, an XCpI of 27.75. He continues to be way ahead of everybody else who are all tied for 2nd place with their XCpI of 0. Thats zero charges per indictment for them.
I know a big Trump fan that loves his stats and will find it fascinating that Trump is so far ahead of the pack when it comes to criminal charges.
Here's a "Conspiracy theory" for you - Trump lapdogs like Jordan and Comer specifically plan to announce the latest fantasy from their Hunter Biden Snipe Hunt because they know yet another indictment is coming for Trump.
WHAT? NOOOOOO…. Would they?! /s
The Trump supporters are not really interested in disputing the facts in these cases.
Their argument isn't that he didn't do what has been alleged , it's simply that he should simply be allowed to do them.
So the defense is - The charges shouldn't be brought and if they are, he should be pardoned.
It's victory at any cost , simply as that.
But they're claiming the charges are politically motivated - not that they shouldn't be applied. The only possible explanations are either, 1 - no crime was committed, i.e. it's prefectly legal to keep those documents and it's perfectly legal to put pressure on election administrators to find more votes; or 2 - he didn't commit the crimes, i.e. - he was framed (in which case, who's voice is it in the phonecall? How did the boxes wind up in his bathroom?)
Perhaps @[Deleted User] or @MisterAnarchy could explain - am i right here, or is Quin?
One step away from mentioning Hillary's emails....
What's the reasoning that Trump should be above the law?
Threats of violence, essentially. If you arrest him then his supporters won’t take it lying down, so pardoning him would be placating his base.
Which of course is a terrible excuse to pardon anyone let alone Trump. A country that feels the need to pardon someone out of fear of a small portion of their citizens is in pretty awful shape.
And of course, pardoning him means more damage long term. He’ll be straight onto social media lying through his teeth about how the prosecution begged him for a conviction and promised a pardon because he was a perfect president and a perfect person or some other nonsense.
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It's only when it's Law & Order for their benefit. You'll see quite quickly the indignation and histrionics when they're feeling the business end of it. It's all a great big conspiracy, then, and completely unjustified, of course.
They wet themselves that time, for sure. Of course, when it came time for MAGA to have a go, why these people were just peaceful protestors. They were just tourists taking souvenirs and photos in Pelosi's office.
The more ... "legitimate" arguments, though they have become swallowed by the ranting lunatics that form Trump's base, have used the Unitary Executive Theory to basically argue that the US President is above the law, functionally. IIRC noted beer & woman enthusiast Brett Kavanaugh was a proponent of that at one point.
Ronny Jackson, Rep. Ronny Jackson, Trumps old doctor Ronny Jackson, arrested and cuffed during altercation with police:
LAW AND ORDER! The video shows him threatening the officers with physical violence and with gubernatorial retaliation.
Boris Epshteyn also under arrest for groping women
Or maybe even roll out a classic "Bengazi!" for old times sake.
It's not mentioned at all anymore, but I often ponder if the same MAGA-heads who'd used this argument against Clinton even grasped what "Bengazi" even was. Was it an event, an organisation, or place? (Maybe even a town in eastern Libya, where a terrorist attack happened on a US building there...but lets not sully the MAGA folk with these informative details) No, the only important thing is that Hillary did the Bengazi! The Bengazi was her fault, and if you're not careful she'll become President and then she'll Bengazi the schools so that your kids will be Bengazi-if-ied. Do you want that? Bengazi-kids?! Thought not... Gotta "Lock her up".
Silly point aside, these people will take any talking point fed to them and parrot it as a politcal opinion. As long as it's something to defend the horrid actions of people they side with, or mud to fling at the other side. Hunter and his Technicolor Dream-Laptop is by far the lamest attempt so far. It's not even something against Joe Biden himself, but the MAGA-zealots will hang onto it as a "See! Look! We were RIGHT! Joe Biden is corrupt and must be fired...becuase he has a kid...who owns a laptop!!"
Kind of telling that bleech companies had to rush out to warn people to not inject themselves with their product when that Orange Dimwit took a stab at DIY Medicine. His cultists are that easily swung by statements from their side.
And the pattern continues, question these people on anything substantive and they disappear, only to appear a day or so later and parrot the same nonsense.
"Threats of violence, essentially. If you arrest him then his supporters won’t take it lying down, so pardoning him would be placating his base."
I don't actually think that is a reason anymore.
The reality is that they tried that once and fundamentally failed. There were hundreds of charges and people have lost their lives and freedom as a result. There are still cases ongoing and on the TV his supporters are seeing those today being prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Their Commander-in-Chief didn't march with them up the building, he didn't cover their legal bills, nor did he pardon them.
Anytime he has appeared in court, there were only a few supporters there.
I listened to a Slate podcast on his legal fees woes yesterday. The only thing these indictments manifest into is an increase in small donations from his circa 400,000 supporters. There is no evidence that there's any real will on the ground to do anything physical IMHO.
Only the best people..
Seriously though , What is it with these guys and sexual assault?
I mean , WTF is wrong with all of them?
Amazing how it's become impossible to discuss this without constantly referencing Nazis but appeasement isn't a policy with a strong history.
Pardoning him just means turbocharging the political cancer festering at the heart of the system. It'd also destroy what little of the social contract exists over there.
Maybe Ronny can be Donald's in-(big)house physician?
"That said, I do believe that Trump should choose Vivek Ramaswamy as his running mate in the forthcoming election."
This guy????
Just a handy guide. I suppose you could make a kind of an advent calendar?
Same thing with most all rapists and despots, they are psychopaths (long):
SPEAK OF THE DEVIL AND SHE SHALL APPEAR
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Oh - are you telling me that she just happened to be booked on the evening of the indictment?
It's all a conspiracy, maaaaan!
I wonder how she got the memo
Oh yeah.
He deserves to go to jail.
Sorry, not sorry.
McCarthy's response is predictable but nonetheless shameful.
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"RED WAVE NOVEMBER"
Don't interrupt them when they're making a mistake.
MSNBC is showing the texts reported last week:
Mirror:
They knew the investigations were a joke.
I think when he says "Justice should be blind" what he really means is "Justice shouldn't see the stuff our side do"
When every 'weaponization of government' hearing is just a hunter biden hearing by any other name.