True, I'm venting on another bot, here to tell us how great Russians are and how its only Putin. Then when he's taken out in 6 months we should forgive and let Russia back into the fold.
Not all Dictatorships are causing the death and destruction that Russia is. All the reasons you give have a breaking point, thats what happened in other countries. The only real solution to this is a change of system in Russia, while they hold a Nuclear threat no country is going to invade Russia, the sanctions seem to be hurting, maybe that will wake the Russians up to take action, maybe they will reach that breaking point.
But given a choice, more Ukrainians (or the next country) dying or "innocent" Russians dying, if that's the choice, then it would have to be the Russians. There is a lot riding on this, similar countries (N.Korea, Chine etc..) are watching and don't want to see Russia collapse as it undermines their position. Its why we see clowns like 'become death' constantly reappearing on site like Boards
I don't think I heard anyone say all Muslims should die, I never did and I never said all Russians should die either. I just did what you're doing.
in your book Russians can excuse themselves for doing nothing about Putin, so I can excuse myself for not saying anything about people calling for all Russians to die.
You're wasting your time on here comrade, go back home and start a revolution, overthrow Putin and his cronies. How can Russians have any pride in their country when they are the scum of the world. Maybe you can tell us, you're one of them.
This seems like an unreasonably high bar set to Russians, one that neatly allows the generalisation that all Russians are somehow complicit, or at fault. That if every Russian isn't going on the street throwing Molotov Cocktails, then they must be at fault.
If overthrowing dictatorships and autocrats were that easy, we'd have no autocracies then. They only work because fear, power, institutionalised ignorance and (the threat of) violence is used to keep the majority of the population in check. Starvation also works, if you're North Korea. The problem with Russia is we just can't know for sure what its population makes of Ukraine, going double for whether they even have access to the right information to make those judgements.
How far away are we from Roblox vs Ruble territory again ?
And the Euro Ruble graph
an impressive graph
And this is why long term, no matter what Putin designates as Russian territory, Ukrainians will never accept it as such, and it will be a very painful and very expensive occupation for Russia.
101.59 Rubles to the dollar and still sliding.
All russians should die.
That was what I have an issue with.
But apparently, that is a russian bot point of view.
There are innocent russian children.
Transpose that sentiment to Muslims after the 9/11 attacks.
Would it be justified to say that all muslims should die?
No. It wouldn't.
I'm an irish man. Who opposes russian aggression. But will not agree that all russians are culpable for their government.
But of course, anyone who disagrees is a bot?!
You are so brave, sad that you can type big noise, but are unfortunately not able to make any difference.
'*you just edited in your second sentence. Makes no sense. You agree that all russians are culpable for their governments actions. I disagree wholeheartedly.
No. I don't think it is everybody's responsibility to tear down putin.
What are you doing to tear down putin? Apart from saying that russia is bad online and saying we should help Ukrainians but then saying you aren't in a position to take them?
I'm glad that you see this as each persons responsibility. Its every Russians responsibility to go out now and fight to tear down Putin, according to you, I assume you agree.
As to you stupid question, suffice to say I'm not in a position to take a refugee.
In the fatherland, you can now pay for the bread in 12 monthly instalments, SaNcTioNs Do NoT WoRk
Dollar now 101.40 rubles
He deliberately said all "Russian's on Ukraine territory" ( or words to that effect) Not every Russian every where, be it man, woman or child. And that's something I could agree with.
"all Russians should die", well I for one won't speak against that
You are sick
I assume you agree that we should take in as many Ukrainian refugees as we can. Can I ask if you have offered to give them a place in your home?
This is cool
Through the years, countries have been ruled by totalitarian leaders, half of Europe would have at some point or another. Russia still is, so yes there are a group in Russia that condemn this war and hate what Putin represents, they prob stay quiet for obvious reasons. BUt they are a minority, at some point the people of russia will rise and change the regime.
For now we have innocent people in Ukraine going through hell, if Russians want to fight and die, and a lot of them are. Then they should fight and die in Russia. Until then, when someone says "all Russians should die", well I for one won't speak against that, yes that would cause many honest Russians pain and suffering, but while Ukr people are going through a living hell then thats a perfectly acceptable position. Maybe if Russian people had a choice, rule under Putin or attack from outside Russia, that might change the internal politics within Russia.
You see, It does come down to a black and white decision, while Russian people do nothing to change their system, people outside Russia pay the price. So the people of Russia need to know that stance will hurt them. Like they say, you get the Govt (leaders) you deserve.
Russian Mir has been a long time in the making. They need to be shocked out of their arrogance.
Very telling interview from Russian volunteers in occupied Ukraine. They almost seem confounded/confused that the local population doesn't accept them.
I like it: from a man tho has stood up to Trump as wall as Putin. Well done.
Interesting reminder from the past
I don't like this thinking that we should blame every Russian citizen for what Russia is doing in Ukraine. It's like those on social media mocking the poor Russian attacked and eaten by a shark just because he was Russian.
Similarly however it does annoy me that some people would absolve the whole Russian population and just try and pin all this on Putin and their regime. Many in Russia, and Russians living abroad are actively cheering on this war, while others are just pretty meh to it and don't really care.
This is not just Putins war and that can not be overstated.
Apologies-I did indeed mean Russia! i have edited my original comment.
If they hadn't started this awful war the Russian economy would be motoring along nicely. Instead they've made themselves an international pariah, been sanctioned by western partners and spent billions on a pointless war
Beautifully put.
By extension, shall we fúck all russian men, women and children who have nothing to do with this or is it cool to wish harm upon every citizen because of the actions of their government?
I mean, it sounds great when you say that, but can you transpose that to any other culture/religion/race and safely say that you would happily gloat in the misery of others based not on their actions, but the actions of people representing them?
but sure put a blue and yellow flag in your window. You are helping.
Wrote "Ukraine" mistakenly for "Russia"?
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I'm pretty sure I can think of another factor that's caused the weakening of Russia.
As ever Putin remains a master strategist
Ruble goes through the 100r to $ barrier for the first time. Will be interesting to see if it stays there.
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I think this is a good way to look at it. Ukraine don't actually need to fully penetrate all the way to the coast. They only need to make it so far across.
Even half way and any russians operating south of them are gonna be having a bad time. The south is effectively a throat. Close it halfway then force the Russians to fight with 50% oxygen intake. They may simply chose not to. This is why the Russians are throwing the kitchen sink at Ukraine for these first 20km. Ceding land in favour of better positions can only work to a point.
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