The optics of not jailing a former president for a failed insurrection are even worse.
Can you imagine if he was jailed. His crazy followers or someone sympathetic to him in the prison would properly help him break out anyway and that is assuming he would be in an actual prison and not in an open Prison if America even have them.
It's either house arrest with no digital communication permitted, or a sectioned paart of a military base (imagine it was gitmo?!)
Any chance they can ask him under oath what's up with his hair.
Yes that would make more sense.
The beautiful part of all these court cases Trump is facing is that he has to be present every day in court for them. Between May and September next year he will be stuck in court day after day for months on end right in the middle of election season. This will drive him nuts, especially if the cases are televised and the whole nation gets to see him fuming in court, it will be box office.
And of course Trump will think he can leave court every day and go out to the press corps to slag off the prosecutors. If he does that (and Id expect him to) the judge will recind his bail and throw him in prison.
Summer 2024 is shaping up to be a very interesting time indeed, the Olympics in Paris will have nothing on whats about to go down in the US.
An ankle bracelet would be very becoming on him.
Is Mike Pence favourite for the Republican nomination now?
No, Trump is*
*Subject to change
I would say that any of us would have more chance of winning than Mike Pence. Maga sees him as a traitor and the anti Trumpers see him as a gutless weasel. Trump will be the GQP nominee.
Trump
Then DeSantis a distant second hoping Trump is ko'd from the race
Everyone else nowhere.
Giddy up!!
Ooh, I'd love to see the Proud Boys and co trying to storm a military base.... Pass the popcorn!
Trump - DeSantis - Vivek Ramaswamy. In that order.
Pence is well down the list at odds of about 50 or 60-1 (some bookies are offering the same odds on Tucker Carlson!)
One of his big donors is threatening to stop.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/desantis-biggest-donor-says-he-wont-give-more-money-unless-changes-are-made-2023-08-04/
"He does need to shift to get to moderates. He'll lose if he doesn't ... Extremism isn't going to get you elected," Bigelow said in an interview, adding that he had communicated these concerns to DeSantis' campaign.
Could say the same about Trump, to be fair.
I would personally say that your approach to this thread is a form of trolling. You make outlandish and ridiculous statements and then refuse to provide any sort of evidence or justification for your points. It's textbook MAGA. No actual evidence for anything, just easily disprovable drivel that's at some stage been parroted by the great leader.
"Just like most of the waffle you post on here"
I rest my case.
I see Ron DeSantis has sharpened his criticism of Trump slightly in the past 24 hours. It'll be interesting to see if he continues down that path nearer the debates and coming into next year. Obviously his only chance is if Trump is forced out of contention.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/05/politics/desantis-trump-2020-election-theories/index.html
Imagine having so much money you can give $20m to a loser like DeSantis and probaly offset that lose by giving Trump twice as much hoping to get 10/20/30 times it back if one or the other becomes president and gives your companies government grants and contracts.
And it's the poor who think Trump isn't part of the establishment that give money they actually can't afford for nothing as the poor just get poorer under Republicans
Bigelow likes to waste money. I won’t derail the thread, a bit of googling will yield interesting results.
Debate then. Prove the worth of your posts, answer the questions posted to you otherwise the standing point of your initial proclamation is on very shaky ground because unless we all back up our points, it just turns into a shouting match and who shouts the loudest wins, and that's not debate.
So again, what makes you think trump won't get a fair trail in DC? Do you cast the same criteria on the Florida case? Do you think trump's comments about what he saw of DC as he drove through put a finger on the scale of a fair trial?
I'm curious to understand your views on this, genuinely, because only with understanding each others points, and this move forward, is to flesh them out and find a quorum of views
Like a headline from the Gotham Gazette...
Everything about that is comedy gold. All caps, the flag, his stern look etc.
He needs to be treated like the clown he is.
There's no ad hominem attacks from me. Calling your posts waffle isn't a personal attack, if I was to call you an idiot for producing said waffle, that would be an ad hominem attack, which I did not. So it's good to know the difference.
An opposing argument, as I said, has to be underpinned by verifiable citation or parity of criteria on an opposing argument. As a centralist as yourself, you'd understand the necessity of a measured and equal valiuation of points.
So with that in mind, and not to derail the thread, let's discuss the measured valuation of fairness of trials between both the DC and Florida cases. Why do you say that trump doesn't get a fair trial in DC but it's ok in Florida?
Don't flatter yourself.
Anyhoo...
Love to see it!
I am not familiar with any of his war crime cases so I cannot comment on them.
How many people in here think the document charges against Trump are politically motivated ?
I said they were and was scoffed at yet according to this poll 47% of Americans think the charges against Trump are politically motivated, 37% said they do not think that politics are driving the investigation, and 16% do not know.
They're not politically motivated. A poll doesn't show otherwise. A Grand Jury of Floridians indicted Trump.
You are in the 37% that thinks that so, just over a third. The minority in other words.
The orange gobsh*ite probably discovered that Graham has a smaller di*k than him and has photos to prove it.
