Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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Not really though, no legislation is going to be passed that allows people to opt in or out depending on their personal perspectives. If there is a mass breaking of the law, either enforce or repeal. And then people can identify the next piece of legislation they don't like and on we go...
Not surprised at all and will be with holding payment here as well.
It's a valid form of protest at the wanton waste of our money. The advantage of with holding TV licence payments is that the public can directly target the message where it needs to go.
I've been paying the licence for well over 30 years and will happily do so in the future, when we see real reform in management. And real consequences for those who have both fed off the teats of the taxpayer and misled us about taking cuts. Tubridy is the most prominent with regard to the latter and he must go.
I think if Tubs was being shown the door, it would have been done by now, when the nation was up in arms about it all.
The fact its gone out of the news now, and Tubs is still around, suggests to me he won't get the heave ho.
But the number of people still refusing to pay the licence gives me a tiny bit of hope.
Absolutely fine but in reality once you sow the seed that it's OK not to pay the TV license because of [insert your desired personal grievance] there will always be a reason not to pay it.
Hands up who would pay any tax if is was considered optional? If the Govt wants to continue to fund RTE publicly, then post this fiasco the TV license in its current format will need to be replaces
That's fine too.. but it will force the issue and make government consider the funding requirements of RTE and value for money etc. It will also need to address funding for the likes of local radio stations who as has been pointed out, deliver a lot 'public service' type broadcasting. Change is needed and an end to the days of junkets and abuse of tax payers money at RTE by those in the upper echelons.
Is it any wonder the July licence fee is down almost 3 million. People are copping on to what their money was funding. Disgraceful behaviour from the National Broadcaster. Heads should roll but will they?? Bakkers is just there to smooth everything over but he won't succeed as people will be examining everything he does and doesn't do.
There was a line in the piece referenced last night that Tubridy seemed to think the RTE Commercial Department worked for him. That really sums up the absolute free for all it seems to have been in there, with Tubs and NK like pigs in the trough of public money.
What if they took the money from general tax receipts?
I see reeling in the years is back on at 6.30pm.
Local radio stations have been providing good local public service broadcasting? I'd love to show me where you think they are providing it. Local Radio Stations have a slight monopoly on advertising on Radio in their region, along with more advertising minutes than RTÉ,many are part of larger organizations, they provide 2 hours of talk radio usually around 9 to 11 or 10 to 12, rest is largely "local" news bulletins during the morning and daytime, most revert to Newstalk national heads after 6pm.
As far as not paying the licences as a form of protest.
This idea that people are scroungers needs to be put to bed, they are not the TV license spongers RTÉ are.
RYAN Tubridy looks set to return to RTE airwaves as bosses fear his loss could lead to Radio One haemorrhaging listeners.
Station insiders say internal meetings in Montrose about Tubs' future were told of the “crucial role” his one hour radio show plays in hanging onto the massive audience of Morning Ireland and passing it onto Today With Claire Byrne.
If RTE try to pull this off, they're finished. I don't know if this is a puff piece or their actual thinking. As Niman said, the longer this drags on, the less likely it seems that they'll show him the door. Wouldn't be surprised if they announced his return at the end of August, he'd back on the radio in days. People need to contact RTE to let them know that we won't accept him back and that we would boycott their channels if they try it.
I actually hope they do bring him back. I don't believe RTE are capable of fixing their waste, governance and corruption problems with their current management structure. Bringing back Tubs will sink them in terms of license fee revenue and the government will be forced to act swiftly and not wait for the 7 month report which we all know will be delayed. I also think FFGG will be severely damaged by this scandal no matter what happens.
Bringing him back after Forbes and O'Leary and the other sicknotes have given the TDs the 2 fingers is a very bad move.
What about the thousands of people who are prepared to acceyhim back?
Should they also contact RTE to show their support?
They can, if they wish. I don’t see the point in bringing back such a divisive figure. There are a lot of people who like him and would welcome him back but there are an equal number who despise him. RTE can't afford to lose more audience share, which they would if he were to return.
They can’t leave Callan on anyway. Be interesting to see the next listenership figures, but you’d imagine 10’s of thousands have already “moved the dial”.
Would someone start a thread, with a poll, that asks the question -
Do people want him back ?
It’s infuriating to think nothing will change on the back of this. The money wasted is almost incomprehensible.
He was always going to try and come back though. People in that organisation don’t want to get off that gravy train.
Unfortunately this is turkeys voting for Christmas. RTE will not allow themselves to cease to exist.
Any politician with half a brain would speak for the people in this situation and gain a lot more respect and support from the people.
It’s so hard to accept how corrupt Ireland is. **** really does flow down from the top
Does anyone really think that Callan or any stand in had dented The Ryan Tubridy Show's audience? I seem to remember The John Murray Show have little to no effect on listenership numbers as Tubs was off in 2FM hemorrhaging listeners.
The John Murray Show in 2015 - 290,000 - 6 months of which were hosted by Miriam O'Callaghan
The Ryan Tubridy Show in 2023 - 331,000
John was never in the top ten earners list.
Paying tax is a contract between the populace and the beaurocracy. A government's job is to clearly show the populace "in return for us all agreeing to pay tax, you get X in return". If they fail, then the populace tends to revolt.
When tvs were invented very few people could afford one, but there was still percieved to be a need for an independent "national" broadcaster, so there was no way to reasonably impose a tax on the entire nation when only a tiny number of people would see a benefit. Therefore, a "licence fee" was paid instead.
Since then, practically everyone has a TV. But RTE isn't a road, or a hospital, or a police service, so it's still not a necessity, and many people don't use any of their services. So there's still a "licence fee". Changing that to a payroll tax, a government has to then prove "in return for this payroll tax, some smarmy stick insect **** is going to lie to you, waffle on in a self congratulatory manner and get grossly overpaid by a bunch of incompetents who aren't going to be held to account for anything, by the way there no money for mental health services" which seems like a... challenging proposition.
IMO your fundamental problem with our politicians relates to ideology rather than intelligence. All our political parties are abosultely committed to 'public service broadcasting'. Even if a politician were to come out and call for RTE to be shut down they would inevitably want it replaced with a similar entity. It's a perfectly respectable position to adopt that the state should not be subsidising broadcasting and RTE should fund itself through advertising/voluntary subscription/whatever but Irish people don'y vote for the kind of libertarian parties that would take such a position...
You could considered a system that would allow people choose which services get a portion of their license fee.
The problem is that Irish media isn't strong.
The Local Radio stations have really suggested that they provide a strong public service, but TBH I don't see it. RTÉ's commissioned programmes have a lot to be desired, while VMTV have never really competed.
I have some niggling issues about TG4, but generally they do a good job largely speaking.
To those of us wondering about the limo disguised as a taxi cost, I got a quote earlier today for a limo from Dublin to Drogheda for 5 hours and no matter what dates I picked this year, the price is the same. The quote can be seen below and it makes you question what limo service were they using and why were the costs so high?
Like everything else, including flip flops, they probably requested the 'we couldn't care less how much it costs, we're not paying for it' rate from the company.
The problem with this now is that given the controversy, the Tubridy "brand" is irrecoverably damaged. "The most trusted man in Ireland" is no longer the most trusted man in Ireland. Indeed the only person I've ever hear d use that description of him was his agent. And certainly no-one will ever use it in the future.
The show will find it very difficult - I personally would say impossible - to find a sponsor. It struggled to do so when he wasn't surrounded by controversy, often being sponsor-less. Advertising revenue will also suffer as companies and brands will not want to be associated with the Tubridy brand.
The listenership will I suspect suffer enormously too. People will not want to listen to a hypocrite. There may be an initial bump if he were to return, but it would purely be for the curiosity factor of what he is going to say on the first show to "explain" his behaviour - o more accurately his version of it. But they won't stick around long-term.
It seems the bubble the RTE management live in think all will be forgiven and return to the good old days if they put him back in the slot. It won't.
And again they're ignoring the fact that when Pat Kenny left, a relative (at the time) unknown in Sean O'Rourke not only held the audience, he grew it. They seem to once again be drinking the NKM Kool Aid.
Jim Jones is alive and well amongst the RT and NKM acolytes.
Question: does RTE have a business interest in the upcoming All Together Now festival??
Listening to Louise Duffy on RTE radio this morning and she must have mentioned it and her gig there at least three times in less than 30 minutes. Would All Together Now be paying for this free advertising. Is she abusing her position with product placement on the air.
Four times now.
If Lottie or whoever can't do promos of cars in the RTE car park, why would Louise be allowed this promotional work on air?
Not sure if I agree with you on SO'R, he had been on the Lunchtime news and The Week In Politics for a good 2 decades. But certainly one of the lesser big name people in RTÉ, and sure didn't his wife present the Wimbledon coverage for RTÉ when the covered it.
Thinks about it more ... your right, sorry!
Ha, what a joke - who's paying you? This listener anyway actually is more inclined to leave Callan on. Whereas before I'd automatically turn your hero off.
But of course, as you know, it'll make little difference who you put in there.
That will be the excuse they use and I expected that line.
They'll soon see how many listeners they lose if they do bring him back.
From what I have read in the Sun, RTE are really giving the impression that Tubridy and Duffy have close to diplomatic immunity in that organisation. According to RTE, the 9am slot is SO important that the listenership fallout from Tubridy's absense would cascade into the rest of the afternoon and would result in a hemorrhaging of Duffy's listenership figures. WTF?
I understand that the slot advertising revenue has been explained to me before on this thread and in which I am satisfied. It leaves me to conclude that if the Sun's reporting on this is correct, that RTE are attempting to shovel s**t down the public's throats. What is even more remarkable is that the only issue that is gating Tubridy's return to his 9am slot (again, and this according to the Sun) is Backhurst's refusal to negotiate with NK.
This really is typical f*****g Ireland. I really hope that if all this comes to pass, that the public don't swallow it and there is some form of backlash.
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