To be fair in every war both armies would have names for their enemies. Might not hear commanders or leaders calling them it but definitely troops on the ground. If Ukraine call Russian's orcs are the Russians using the term nazis for Ukraine or do they have another name they call them that their troops use?
They will become the terrorist go to weapon in the very near future. In fact Russia use them right now.
When the Nazi's were invading Europe, we referred to them with derogatory terms. Not every German soldier was "evil" of course, but they were taking part in a greater evil.
Putin is currently invading a European country (and is indirectly on a war footing with the rest of Europe) and as such Russians are being referring to by various terms. The Ukrainians started referring to invading Russian soldiers as "orcs" because they were systematically destroying, stealing, raping, murdering - similar to the fictional characters.
You post a story about a Russian soldier who doesn't want to fight, okay, I can post details of Russian soldiers keeping girls as young as 14 in a basement for a month systematically raping them. Russian soldiers castrating Ukrainian POWs. Torturing kids in Kherson. Pulling people's teeth out in Bucha. Deliberately opening fire on pensioners in a car in the outskirts of Kyiv. Deliberately targeting residential buildings, hospitals. Not isolated incidents, thousands upon thousands of cases have been recorded.
I don't use the term "orc" myself, but I understand why some do. In context, a European country is being invaded, people are being slaughtered.
Unfortunately serious consequences for Russian soldiers family could be a reduction in their weekly sack of onions. The Army is not going to revolt over a soldiers family not receiving their onion ration. But that sack of onions could be more than enough to keep a soldier loyal and on the front line. There was a video doing the rounds last week of a soldiers family being compensated for his loss with a sack of onions. (Don’t know how genuine that was) but I reckon there is more than a grain of truth to it. That’s the unfortunate reality. Putin recruits from the impoverished regions. That’s the Russia Putin has created and exploits.
Well no that's what the Ukrainians have christened them.
It is hilarious how that term does rattle certain peoples Jimmies though.
Given what's gone down in last 17 months, zero sympathy. He co-operated with conscription, he went to subjugate and kill his citizens of a neighbouring state. He died.
And in the hands of terrorist groups.
"Experts" in this thread call him an orc
there are satellite picks of where they store artillery and tanks in Russia, so over time whats taken out can be counted , it was pointed out that they seemed to be picking apart some of the arty for barrels, I doubt they have an absolute shortage of arty/shells, just more a logistics issue of having them in the right place. but that affects both sides, its all react, counter react, counter counter react.
I expect the ammo issues also relate to the difficulty of getting them to the front line, and we know the Ukrainians are targeting the ammo dumps at long range.
Surprised about the shortage of artillery ammo shortage. Would have thought they'd have a decade of soviet stockpiles to use up. I would have expected barrel replacement to have been a bigger problem.
So this is at least the second time on the thread you are trying to garner sympathy for Russian soldiers and at the same time you are complaining about being called a Russian sympathizer?
lol.
difficult to see it not be the terrorist weapon of choice in the next decade, a thousand euro drone and Wembley or Giant stadium
It’s only a matter of time till we see these drone strikes been used by criminals to take out their rivals in drug wars too.
I’d imagine the consequences for a Russian soldier deserting would be pretty severe. I don’t what they are exactly but judging by punishments for other actions in Russia it’s safe to say they are probably very far reaching. I don’t think it’s fair to say it’s just a matter of surrender. Especially for a single soldier to take such solitary action. I’d imagine serious consequences for family and loved ones at home.
If a Ukrainian puts a bullet in a reluctant Russian soldier who is invading Ukraine, that does not constitute the tragedy.
The tragedy was formed when the man was conscripted and sent there against his wishes. His death is just the consequence of that tragedy
They have developed a number of home-grown suicide drones, incl the Beaver which is claimed to have a range of 1000km. It has forward canards and we have seen drones over Moscow with forward candards. So it's possible this is what has been attacking Moscow. It's also likely they have other ones incl hobbyist-type stuff.
Directly controlling a drone from 1000km away is difficult (not impossible), so the most simple type will fly a GPS route and then crash into a set co-ordinate. Russia try to combat this with GPS jammers/spoofers, which confuse the navigation or make it think it is somewhere else. That's why they're crashing into buildings.
As the war progresses we'll see attack drones from both sides becoming increasingly sophisticated against jamming.
Distance from Donbass to Moscow is 1159 KLms ( approx ) So if Ukraine have anything in their Armory with that kind of range, then yes, Moscow can be hit. But I don't know what they have. Maybe some posters have a better idea of what they have?
And does Ukraine's equipment have ranges up to 1000km?
Can they reach ,say Moscow from their front lines?
Yes they can. The very same as if they were in the pilots seat and all from the comfort of where ever they happen to be, which on the front lines, could be from their dug out.
I see now.It says there was "an unidentified operator" of the Zagreb drone.
I wonder how finely he or she could arrange its target?
Was there a camera onboard and accurate ongoing GPS?
Can a remote drone controller just cruise along ,say the Champs Elysees or Red Square as if they were in the craft themselves?
Russia have removed the guarantee of safe transit under the grain deal. There is no active Russian presence attempting to stop transit or any direct threat to anyone entering Ukrainian waters.
You could argue it is semantics, but its ultimately not a massively different situation to the supply lines into Ukraine bringing Western equipment. Russia makes vague threats as is their wont and its enough to stop civilian foreign flagged tankers.
What you mean there is no blockade?
If the UAF holds this, Russian positions in Uroz will have to consider a withdrawal.
The AMS1 is slightly to the side of the massive backlog to enter the Danube. It is, by absolutely no reasonable definition whatsoever, trying to break the blockade (not that there even is a blockade).
Also entering the Ukrainian branch of the Danube is almost entirely worthless in terms of opening up grain exports anyway. Always best to be wary of such fantastical tales.
The actual tragedy is that horrors inflicted on innocent Ukrainians including civilians in an illegal war of plunder of conquest, waged by illegal means.
And ending that tragedy demands the incapacitation of Russians active in the invasion whether by death, casualty or POW camp.
It is regrettable this story ended in death and not the other options. But it diminishes what is happening to Ukrainians to equate the two.
I posted earlier (over 500 pages back) that the loss of Ukrainian and Russian life was tragic (using a Russian conscript as example).
At that time posters (who are active now) disagreed that the loss of any Russian soldier's life was tragic, I hope that by reading that article they might see the point I was making and stop referring to posters they disagree with as Russian sympathizers or trolls.
A powerful story, and very sad.
This is the situation it seems
If they do I'd say Israel will hit back. They are a nuclear power too.
Going up the Danube is not breaking the blockade. There are plenty of access points through Romania. And dozens of ships waiting to do so.
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