Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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Listen, all I was trying to say it that the idea that you will get C-Suite calibre people for less than 100k is madness. This isn’t a local Supervalu we are talking about here - it’s an organisation with hundreds of employees, hundreds of millions of budget, and a Board to report to.
I’m on 140k in my job and I’m not even considered that well paid in my field. My nephew is in his mid-20’s and already making over 100k. Senior managers in tech, consultancy, pharma etc would all be making 150k+.
I’m not being rude here, but of course an organisation would consider a manager with a history of delivery, a MBA from Trinity, and a professional appearance and demeanour over some lad with a certificate in lawnmower maintenance from the South Roscommon Institute of Technology. That’s life.
I see your argument.
Strange that you should notice that you didn't ask me, but not that I did say I would take a stab at answering the question, clearly I didn't do it very well.
It would be a scale. Starting out 30k and depending on your role in the company and up to 100k based on promotion, if you stay in the same role for 40 years (and you came in at the lowest level) you be earning the equivalent of 45k (long term increment), the company would have a standard pension for all staff, more you get paid the more you pay into the pot and the more the company pays in also. (I know nothing about pensions so forgive me I assume companies have a pension company).
You would have to take into consideration inflation and the jobs market 30k as a starting off point today may be 40k 10 years down the road.
30k at the lowest level with in the company such as a role like Lottie Ryan.
Max salary would have to be review by management HR / DG.
Yes, I would agree 100k is possibly too low, but then is €250k too high?
But yet the CFO came from Dunnes Stores ! Is it different that he is from Dublin? If Fergus from Ballinasloe has the qualifications and experience he can take the role. The guy in the leadership role now worked for TV3, I suppose that gives him something.
I don't think Adrian Lynch even applied to be Controller of RTÉ ONE, I though he had but the more I think about it he was just an indo producer.
If you are not well paid you are working for the wrong company Vincent.
Have you ever thought about working for RTE? I hear they offer a very competitive salary which could be seen as best in class.
I am well paid, just not the best paid in my field. In fairness I only work 25-30 hours per week so it suits my lifestyle. Get to play golf 3 or 4 times a week as a result.
I’m paid for my knowledge, not for my time. Like Tubs gets paid for his brand, and not for his time behind the mic.
I think Collins was probably too timid for the role. You need very strong characters for those roles. I'd imagine Collins also had no idea of the accounting shennanigans that were taking place before he joined the organisation.
I don't think Dr. Phebes was being classist. He didn't say that C Suite people had to come from South Dublin. And I don't see the issue with someone from Trinners or UCD either. There are culchies there too. And both places give an excellent education. An example, Michael O'Leary from Ryanair is from Mullingar, went to Trinners and is what I would call a top C Suite person.
On your point about needing lavish, excessive salaries, the reality is that if you want to get good C Suite people, you have to pay for them. If you were a good Chief Financial Officer with an excellent track record, would you go to work for RTE where the cap is €100k or will you work in the private sector where they are paying around €200k? By the way, Morgan McKinley have the range of CFO salaries between €130k and €300k.
I will accept the fact that paying good money doesn't automatically mean you get good staff, but paying poor money does rule an awful lot of the good staff out.
What brand does Tubs stand for? Mediocrity?
I genuinely wasn’t being classist. I’m from a working class rural background myself. All I was doing was pointing out the reality that if you have a degree from Trinity, a professional qualification, a history of leadership and management then you can command a big salary. You’re not going to get top calibre senior management at a 100k salary cap. Just isn’t going to happen.
Sounds right to me.
Where do I sign up?
Am I the only one on here thinking what the fook is a "C suite person"
Great see licenses renewal drop off a cliff... also I've made this point for years.. . Like the editor of gript .Why the hell are poor people, funding the financial bonanza for all involved in rte ?
Everything that has a beginning has an end - let RTE on and come to its natural and rightful inept conclusion.
It you want to rebuild something new the old must be destroyed. RTE is Windows 98 at the very best.
Time to die. Rebirth.
I came up with the 100k figure as it's more than enough for anybody.
Bonus etc they can work out later.
If they were all capped at 100k RTE wouldn't have to cry poverty.
And the so called "talent" would be brought back down to earth.
I don't understand any talk of redundancy or a payout unless he has a contract that is currently in force and even at that it's a matter of paying up the contract.
The whole point from an employer's perspective in using contract workers is to avoid pension and redundancy payments and headcount.
As I said earlier in this thread, RTE don't seem to get any of the benefits of hiring contract workers at all, paying well above going rate for their services.
If RTE don't want to keep Tubridy in a job it's a fairly simple thing to do and should t even involve the meeting that we have already seen happen between himself and KB.
Keeping him in the role is commercial and political suicide.
Which Positions Are Part of the C-Suite? The C-suite refers to a company's top management positions, where the "C" stands for "chief." Various chief officers (e.g., CEO, CIO, CFO, etc.) are the occupants of the C-suite. These individuals, while highly paid and influential managers, are still employees of the firm.
I don't mean this to be insulting but you picked those figures out of your arze. They have no basis in reality. And regarding your claim that €100k is enough for anybody, that just shows that you are out of touch with salaries here in Ireland.
The typical salary range for a Chief Financial Officer is €130k - €200k. I'm not picking those figures out of my arze. See below.
Typical salary range for a Chief Executive officer is €160k to €350k. Source below.
I could go on.
Sounds pretty low in both cases tbh.
I thought that myself. I suppose there's a wide range out there. Maybe they aren't paid so well in smaller companies.
And how many of those companies paying that rate are begging for millions from the government each year?
If anyone is the highest paid its the most responsible. Thats the C suite - the pilots/guides of RTE.
If they had done their jobs here they would be no scandal.
They created the environment for this culture to flourish in the green house of RTE.
You are mistaking ‘servants’ for ‘service’ my friend.
Think of the word ‘civil servant’ ie one who gives a ‘service ‘to the public.
What is the defination of service, I hear you ask?
Its a feeling, dude , the feeling the service receiver gets from the provider, and if that feeling is good , then it’s good service and if bad then it’s bad service.
RTE certainly don’t give one a good feeling with their ‘service’ I would opine.
Most State Organisations to be honest. There are thousands in the HSE, the Public Service, the Civil Service, the Courts Service etc. earning over €100k per year. What was Paul Reid on, oh yeah, over €420k per year as Head of the HSE. And he wasn't even the best paid in the HSE. Last year 8 staff earned over €500k. Have you seen a consultant's contract lately. Most of them on well over €200k per year, with some on significantly more. I know of one surgeon who gets close to €500k per year in the HSE. RTE get chickenfeed compared to the HSE. I'm not absolving RTE of their shennanigans, I'm just showing you that €100k is not an attractive salary for those roles. They can get more elsewhere.
Don't take my word for it. Here.
There’s a significant difference in performing life saving surgery and being the self-titled Toyman.
Agreed. They didn't cover themselves with glory by any means.
I wasn't talking about the toyman. We were talking about c-suite people.
I just used that as an example that €100k simply isn't an attractive salary. We've posters here who think that €100k is more than enough for anyone. Head in the sand people.
Well his brand is now irrecoverably damaged if not destroyed so by your own logic you’ll be fine with him being paid a fraction of his previous earnings if retained, or have no trouble with him never being on RTÉ again.
Ok. Got it.
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100k won't get you anything in management and tbh when rte CFO said he was on 200k, I thought it would have been marginally higher knowing how rte operate.
That said, for 200k to 250k you expect someone who can and will do the job required and someone who is accountable.
With all due respect you brought in consultants into the equation.
How anyone could compere Ballsy’s workload to a relativity with a surgeon or medical consultant is bonkers.
If we are discussing management types and administration types let’s stick to that.
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