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Enough is enough? Dublin north inner city crime

ninebeanrows

When are government going to act and put an emergency team in place to clean up the north inner city.

Another attack on Talbot st. A daily occurrence now yet Store Street station a stones throw away.

This is an emergency situation in the surrounds of the cities main street.

It is a disgrace. Why is nothing being done?

Gardaí in Store Street are appealing for witnesses

A man in his 40s is in a critical condition in hospital after he was attacked by a number of people on Dublin's Talbot Street last night.

The serious assault happened at around 10.40pm and the victim is receiving treatment at Beaumont Hospital.

No arrests have been made and gardaí in Store Street are appealing for witnesses.

Investigations are ongoing, gardaí have said.

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Glebee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881399#Comment_120881399

Helen McEntee thinks differnet.

TedBundysDriver

Honestly you'd swear some people never left Ireland reading some of the comments here. Does Dublin have a problem with a small percentage of dickheads ruining it for the vast majority, yes it does but these problems exist elsewhere in Europe and the world. In vast parts of the US the police force have just given in due to violence and crime. Take a day trip to parts of Naples if you want too see scumbagary on a big scale, Paris, Marseille, Brussels, Berlin etc... all have huge no go areas and that's before we even mention parts of south America and the middle east or Africa.

Does the issue in Dublin need solving before it get's worse yes but scumbags aren't an issue that is solely contained to the north inner city.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120882180#Comment_120882180

No disrespect, I don't and never will buy into comparisons with other countries.

The reality is , we have an insane amount of money available to spend that has in essence been banked. We have very noticeable issues with law and order across the country. We should always be striving to do better and looking to enhance quality of life for our citizens. As the population increases, resources and infrastructure should increase across the board in line with that.

Lads rocking around with no equipment in clapped out marked Hyundais and Transits is not good enough. No wonder they are demoralised.

We are failing the Garda.

amacca

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881613#Comment_120881613

That's why a batman type figure is necessary or a team of bat people to be more inclusive 😅

Seriously it feels as if a well funded, well resourced anonymous vigilante with some blind eye turning is necessary with the state things have gotten into.

The rot has been incremental for the last 50 years at this stage...I remember my dad telling me about a gard friend of his he used to play hurling with completely disillusioned with thugs getting off with less than a slap on the wrist and giving them the two fingers on the street the next day after some fairly serious levels of scumbaggery...this was the 70s...

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881923#Comment_120881923

I don't know what to say, probably "it could be worse", - which doesn't help.

And yes, it is worse in Canada, - the land of glory and aspiration to many imigrants also has darker sides:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN8ic5ktcHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV86CphI0kQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUf1WaiZbvc

ninebeanrows

Well it doesnt look very hopeful that anything will be done going by those quotes from the MOJ on newstalk

Very disappointing and sad.

[Deleted User]

On today's episode of last night in Dublin

Incident 1: Junkie in a hurry burst through me and my GF outside The Palace on Fleet and said something like 'will ya f**king walk. We were walking just having a nice time chatting ffs.

Literally 20 seconds later

Incident 2: later a junkie lying on the ground on Westmoreland St being helped up by people who looked like tourists

Incident 3: A fight on the train between Tara and Lansdown as some rough locals (again looked like junkies) starting mouthing off at a lad who wasn't taking their **** anyway.

Good on him he quietened them.

There's a fooking serious amount of Junkies everywhere alongside the teenage terrors!

tom1ie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881563#Comment_120881563

No because these sprites see the guards as a laughing stick without the power to do anything to them.

Until we start imposing harsh sentences and value guards for doing their job (instead of gsoc going on a witch-hunt) nothing will change.

lawrencesummers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881741#Comment_120881741

If she isnt willing to recognise the problem then she is the problem.

bartkingcole

The first step is recognition that there is a problem.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/mcentee-youre-not-going-to-be-safe-all-the-time-in-dublin-city-centre-1489550

this is not recognition of a problem but rather trying to find excuses. Nothing will change - scumbags will continue to have the run of the city, Gardai will still have excuses and ultimately citizens will suffer. Seriously disappointing but not in the slightest bit surprising. And I would lean towards Fg/Labour in voting.

AngeloArgue

I'm not too sure a presence of police is the panacea here. These people are wilfully defiant. Goading the police is a source of fun for them. The police don't want to arrest them for day to day antisocial behaviours because with all the bureaucracy it'll take most of their shift to process just one offender. Then it goes through multiple court appearances that will further keep the guard off the streets. The offender will be let off lightly as to leave the whole process a seemingly waste of time and money.

geographica

Everyone banging on about needing more Gardaí, correct, we do, but we also need a functioning court system with judges that live in the real world (and not a protected bubble) and more jail places. The justice system is a sham, the scrotes know sweet fa will be done to them, if they are even caught.

Oh and get rid of concurrent sentencing immediately, 2 crimes? 2 sentences

joinme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881549#Comment_120881549

My point is that proper police presence day and night creates a deterrent to crime, therefore less petty crime, less assaults, thefts, which leads to less arrests. Most people behave better in the presence of authority. Its Ingrained. More guards needed.

tom1ie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881538#Comment_120881538

Nope.

If you keep arresting them but they’re let out straight away they’ll keep offending.

Pretty obvious tbh.

GSBellew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120875962#Comment_120875962

I'll ignore the country folk bit.

Think does not come into it, you know, I know, they know, many tourists know, it is a kip.

joinme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120875520#Comment_120875520

Its not about locking them up, its about implementing and resourcing proper policing so they wont commit crime in the first place. A deterrent, thats what constant police presence brings to a neighborhood/city/society. In most European capitals you see police everywhere day and night. This is what the scrotes need to see, and everyone else needs to happen.

Straight Talker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120877589#Comment_120877589

Mate you can write all the essays in the world for all i care. Dublins north city centre is a place i shall continue to avoid.😉

JupiterKid

Anyone who thinks the North inner city of Dublin is safe and of an acceptable state is seriously delusional.

These serious problems of casual violence, scumbaggery, a very visible hard drugs crisis and widespread anti-socia behaviour are largely surmountable in the medium to long-term if the political will do actually do something was there.

But it's not. Those currently in power do not give one hoot about the state of inner city Dublin. They really don't and IMO theynever have. It is not an acceptable state of affairs. This is an extremely inepymt and corrupt Dublin Corporation I am referring to as well as the govt.

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881342#Comment_120881342

WFH is the next challenge, if a home of theirs is unobtainable. I'd rather go to the office than spend the whole workday in a residential property which I am sharing whith a bunch of strangers whom I don't really want to share with in the first place. The office is then a welcome change.

Mike Murdock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120880888#Comment_120880888

They haven’t left because people can now WFH anywhere.

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881320#Comment_120881320

Again I agree with you.

I also think that tourists should be warned about going to certain places in Dublin, about youth gangs and their motivation for crime for lack of opportunities and housing.

Better safe than sorry.

hymenelectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881215#Comment_120881215

If we "turn a corner on the housing crisis next year" I'll eat an elephant.

The situation is so woeful it doesn't even have corners anymore, it's a circle.

I say that housing is the biggest driver of crime in deprived communities, and its leaking into other sections of society too.

The big deal about housing is that a guard needs to be able to affordably live too, so does the nurse, so does the teacher.

It might seem a long drive from an American tourist having his eye kicked out to the housing crisis, but it isn't. All the bullshyt in this country is connected, and the commonality is the housing crisis that was created without a single fook given to the consequences.

The very, very easily predicted consequences.

Without hyperbole, this thing is just getting started. Let nobody cry ignorance.

hymenelectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120880831#Comment_120880831

To be fair, you're missing the entire middle segment of "simply cannot afford it"

And given the absolute state of housing in the country, that middle segment has to be easily the biggest segment.

So much so, it must be putting families and students off the idea years before there's even a chance. A 15 year old might not be the brightest, but they sure can see what's ahead of them.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881215#Comment_120881215

Are we now pretending that 40k houses a year is enough to meet demand.

Ok.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881025#Comment_120881025

I think the housing crisis will turn a corner next year.

I think 2020 and 2021 were approximately 20,000 home completions. 2022 and 2023 will be just under 30,000.

But I think 2024 will be more than 30,000. The highest number since 07/08.

The root of the problem has always been construction capacity.

But the number of people working in construction has been rising year by year, number of apprenticeships is rising year by year (Simon Harris is promoting and incentiving construction jobs for a few years now), also we're recruiting skilled workers from places like South Africa.

Also we're about to have a huge oversupply of office space next year, so all that capacity can move to housing. Also Children's Hospital is finishing up.

So I think we can hit 40,000 completions quite quickly and gradually increase from there. So we'll have doubled completions in just a few years.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881099#Comment_120881099

How to hoover up votes for the next election...promise to stamp down on crime, promise to build a new prison, promise to recruit lots more Gardai....then actually deliver on the promises!

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881025#Comment_120881025

As I have written SF won't succeed as well. However if people are desperate enough they'd believe it and vote for them, - but that won't be a solution as well.

Regarding the lack of housing perspectives, some will sadly vote for SF, some will sadly turn to violence and random attacks, and some will emigrate, leave the country, etc.. This will be just another brain drain.

There aren't any other choices. It's as dire and as basic as that.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120880868#Comment_120880868

They probably have many previous convictions even should have been locked up

Our justice system is a disgrace

Blarney_man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881025#Comment_120881025

SF will do nothing

Baba Yaga

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120880838#Comment_120880838

jeez....thats just...fanfcukingtastic,great news...now how about the rest of us,drew?