Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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Don't!
I could post the Tubs Patrick and the President Launch pic again if you want to vomit?
After the aww cat gif, you showed me up with a better p word
Not on. We'll have words later dancer.
What have I done now?
KB won't succeed as long as RT is with RTE and as long as NKM has clients inRTE.
RT won't have a career in the UK or Ireland.
As RT won't have a career here or in the UK what station he goes to is redundant question.
@skimpydoo
re-phrase the question perhaps.
Will Kevin Bakhurst succeed?
Will RT have a career in the Uk?
Will RT have a career in Ireland?
What station will RT go to?
This thread has now jumped the shark
I think you'll find that the water supply/sewage removal, Energy supply, Public transport and indeed banking industries all HAVE to survive to the point that the state often HAVE to get involved once those bastions of business, the private sector, screw things up to some extent, but not after extracting a shed tonne of profits/dividends etc.
I am not private = bad/ public = good - I have been around long enough to know that certain organisations/services are generally better off in private hands once regulation exists etc but there are other industries that shouldn't have any private interference (generally).
Surely you've lived through the banking crisis?
Public service broadcasting is needed - but again, there's plenty scope (as there is now) for private sector companies and indeed contractors make a good living out of it also.
Companies go bust in the private sector but the existence of competition ensures an industry survives. Having a state owned monopoly gives rise to capture of that organisation by political interests. It is the sole arbiter of morality in said industry and egged on as Irish despite sucking money and the life out of society. It also means that being the only organisation it can’t go bust despite being inefficient and sucking out tax payers money. That doesn’t happen in the private sector.
The same does not happen in a privately run industry. There is accountability in the form of share holder meetings. People lose money (more often than not gain money) but due to diversity these losses are not as widespread and deep as with publicly monopolistic run organisations. There is more diversity of viewpoints and not a monopoly situation where there is no alternative viewpoints.
It is true that the business cycle in privatised companies leads to failure however the strength of the industry survives due to diversity. What one effect is said to be accountability to the public via the democratic process is really a capture of those businesses.
https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2017/06/17/the-perils-of-nationalisation
Yes, a lot of stuff that we might consider public service content will be produced by private companies and a lot of stuff produced by RTE itself will be trashy commercial tat.
That's why I think the TV and radio stations themselves should be competing private entities.
The public service aspect (which I agree is needed) should be a publicly funded commissioning body serving all the TV stations but which sells but does not itself broadcast content.
I dont disagree that there are many areas that should and could be improved and to be fair if you look at what actually happens, a lot of the content that goes out on RTE is produced by "private" organisations.
But throwing the baby out with the bathwater isn't a good idea in this instance.
Here's a few private entities in the UK:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-09-27/why-britain-s-railway-privatization-failed (From 2012)
and of course our own private entities that eventually required state ownership of one description or another because they couldnt function and were literally to big to "fail":
https://www.permanenttsb.ie/heritage/heritage.html
Do you wish for me to continue or are you going to come up with reasons why it can be different?
I appreciate these are not broadcasting organisations however we do require a state supported and owned broadcaster - just a leaner one, with way more oversight!
"Public broadcasting is required and it is in the best interests of the citizen it remains a state body."
Certain aspects of it absolutely. On the other hand, I'm not sure about a lot of RTE's output though being proper quality public service television. A lot of it could be handled just as well by a private company.
Sorry I took that comment out subsequently. War has nothing to do with it other than to demonstrate privatisation brings about victory and prosperity.
Nationalisation leads to business failure and a black hole financially. RTE is is a black hole. By privatising industry the overwhelming evidence supports financial subsistence and survival. Nationalisation leads to a lack of accountability, corruption and a financial failure.
WTF has war got to do with this?
British energy companies are failing left right and centre, water companies going the same direction, as are rail companies. All privatised yet will end up costing the state ten times over.
Speak to British consumers about 'short term pain' dealing with privatised organisations.
Public broadcasting is required and it is in the best interests of the citizen it remains a state body.
Agreed, Ffs there are lots of private entities right here that are anything but a shining beacon of integrity...
Like anything there's a balance to be struck...this public-private nonsense gets tedious after a while...some person dug up their notes from college 20 years ago, proceeds to regurgitate them on a chat forum and now insists privatisation is the answer to life the universe and everything as if its never been tried before or there aren't examples of it being a horrible failure either...yawn!
It could be argued we haven't lived through the worst of the consequences of what that poster is advocating yet but its coming.
Please provide examples. My thesis is based on raising the GDP of the nation. In a wealthier nation living standards rise and more come out of the middle/working class.
Overwhelming evidence is out there to support this. If you want prosperity, you should embrace change and short term pain, to evolve and become better.
How is the old privatisation going for the good average citizens of the UK in the extended wake of Margaret Thatchers actions now d'you think ....
Sheeeit...I didn't want him in the first place!
Indeed and thankfully you've found your way onto a site that literally allows lots of "arseholes".
There are lots of organisations that have been privatised that have as little accountability as we've seen with RTE in recent time - you should be well aware of them.
Lots of big organisations across the water that were privitised in the 80's and 90's are now heading back to state ownership - a glaring example of what to be wary of.
And opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one. I am basing my findings on an overwhelming bibliography of evidence.
These share holders (or in Socialists opinions sinister elites) are in large pension funds owned by the majority of people in the state.
They increase accountability which isn’t there in state owned organisations. If you own shares in your pension you can directly hold that organisation to account.
Not asking you to accept it. Just giving my opinion, as you have yours.
And we should believe that why? Because you say so? Prove how RTE was pro FG other than subjective bias.
RTE runs programs on the famine, 1916, the lockout regularly. Including the Angelus and owns TG4. It could be the FF manifesto.
Hate you again.
And not pologetic about it either. Jaysus! I'm really trying.
Alright, but where was the evidence of pro Workers Party propaganda in any programmes he produced? He would not have had any real editorial influence or clout. RTE, at that time, was pro FG/Labour if anything.
perfidious
I'm interested in the company teams and phones/emails being displayed on a public venue.
I'm presuming they were not shown in gallery?
@Beasty Can we please add a poll to this thread?
And I should accept your opinion why? You have been brainwashed to believe socialism is the answer? You watch too much RTE you poor sod.
So far my poll has 90% in favour of RT not coming back to RTE.
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