Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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You're very confused and muddled on a lot on things. Don't know the facts. Here's a clear break down:
There are differing recollections of RTÉ’s underwriting of its tripartite agreement with Ryan Tubridy and car company Renault.
The former Late Late Show presenter was paid €150,000 by RTÉ under the agreement in lieu of two €75,000 payments per year from Renault.
Noel Kelly provided the PAC with an email from former RTÉ chief financial officer Breda O’Keefe dated February 20, 2020, saying the broadcaster “can provide you with a side letter to underwrite this fee for the duration of the contract”.
This goes directly against O’Keefe’s recollection of events. She said the management team were against the underwriting.
The former CFO said she was unaware of any underwriting of the agreement by RTÉ until it was reported in the media.
RTÉ interim deputy director general Adrian Lynch told the PAC on Thursday that the broadcaster maintains the February 2020 email did not represent a contractual agreement to underwrite the fees.
Former director general Dee Forbes verbally committed to underwrite the agreement in May 2020, he said.
One of the seven “untruths” Ryan Tubridy took aim at in his opening statement on Tuesday was “that RTÉ’s underwriting of Renault’s payment obligations was a secret.”
“This is not true. RTÉ’s underwriting of Renault’s payment obligations was not a secret,” he said.
The February 2020 email from Breda O’Keefe to Noel Kelly was copied to Dee Forbes and RTÉ’s director of content Jim Jennings.
The interim deputy director general has said it wasn’t widely known within RTÉ that the Renault deal was being underwritten.
Noel Kelly told PAC the deal with Renault was a commercial one for his client to fulfil live appearances for Renault, separate from his contract with RTÉ.
Mr Lynch contradicted the claim, saying negotiations for Mr Tubridy’s salary and those for the tripartite agreement were closely linked.
New RTÉ Director General Kevin Bakhurst said there’s “no logic” to claims made by Tubridy and Kelly that the two agreements are separate.
“My idea of it would be that if the money was negotiated through RTÉ and paid for by RTÉ then it should be counted as an overall payment by RTÉ and therefore should have been properly accounted for and represented in the figure,” he said.
Noel Kelly contends that there was no chance of Ryan Tubridy walking away from RTÉ if the parties couldn’t agree to the terms of the annual €75,000 payments.
Conversely, Mr Lynch said the belief within RTÉ was Ryan Tubridy’s contract would not have been signed without the commercial agreement with Renault in place or RTÉ underwriting it.
Noel Kelly told PAC: “We never expected RTÉ to actually pay the sum. If there was no sponsor, there would be no payment.” Renault didn’t engage Tubridy for the roadshows in the final two years of the three-year deal.
However, Mr Kelly filed invoices for the payments to RTÉ, who then forwarded them on to UK-based media company Astus.
Mr Lynch said Noel Kelly acknowledged in the Grant Thornton report that RTÉ would make the two €75,000 payments to Tubridy if the sponsor was no longer in place before the contract was up.
“We contend that the payments of €75,000 for year two and three of the commercial contract were pursued by NK Management, despite it knowing that the Renault contract was no longer in place.”
Kelly rejected claims that he had influence at the top level of RTÉ and said he had never had a one-on-one meeting with Ms Forbes.
“I’ve only ever met Dee Forbes with her legal team. I’ve never had a cup of tea with Dee Forbes, I have never met her for lunch, I have never met her for dinner, I don’t know Dee Forbes,” he said.
Mr Lynch provided PAC with records of a Microsoft Teams call on April 25, 2022, which was only attended by Mr Kelly and Ms Forbes.
And shut down???
If Tubs gets back on air after his very clear gaslighting of the public we really deserve all we get.
There needs to be clean up and restructuring of this stupidly obscene organisation which provides a service to a very small population and it can start with Tubridy.
He is not at fault for this but he is a part of the cultural problem and his position is untenable.
Privitisation isn't the answer.
I consulted my notes from my masters degree twenty years ago. Elementary maybe but I assure you those thoughts are my own.
Love it. Bit behind but seriously, this is just a coincidence...like I took the saddle off my bike and was admitted to a&e. Slippy floor. Could happen to any of us.
Why would it be the wealthy elite? Share holders? Better that than having an organisation run for the political motives of certain political interests and political parties running at a loss to tax payers for generations.
Privatisation has won hands down over nationalisation. This has been proven in countries like Cuba, Russia, North Korea and every other communist country on earth. They run at losses and cost the country money.
They prevent competition and prevent FDI into the market due to conspiracy theories like the ones you have been brainwashed to believe. That there is a sinister ruling class that will run the companies into the ground? What about political parties capturing these state run organisations? Isnt that more sinister and monotonous? A television company could be prevented from failure by regulation
Who are this wealthy elite that would take over? The share holders of said companies? It has been proven that boards which are beholden to share holders improve efficiency and prevent corruption in most cases. Nationalisation leads to capture and corruption as has been seen in the case of RTE.
Nope as the newest person to vote joined Boards in 2017.
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Ah here. In my well recorded stated statement I only used one word within the first sentence without beginning with the letter p. I win.
Although your sentence is a complete one, I'm not sure. Is it? So maybe you win?
I'm confused is it declarative or maybe nominative (swear I didn't google).
when you are over the target you will take the most flack.
Carry on....
Facebook and twitter. Guess you never know
Well most of the people who have responded to my poll are Boards.ie users who I have found fair and decent on various threads on here. So I don't know how you can find them out of step with the real world.
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Possible 'new accounts' on boards overload incoming (on the yes side of course)
Politics.
(Politics is the pursuit of power. Power attracts the corrupt.)
Privacy and pedantic? Plus perhaps, pontificating?
Feck you and. So close.
And still we don't know how much RTE pay NKM per year for supplying poor/mediocre presenters that nobody else wants
I think it's safe to say now that Noel Kelly's fees are a percentage on top of the published fees paid to the presenters and not what I kinda assumed that - lets say presenter X is paid 400k and then X pays their agent the agents cut, presenter takes the 320k and agent takes 80k which frankly is how it should work. But no, not with the fookin eejits in RTE it seems
I remember reading an article where a different talent agent said the industry norm is 15-20% so that would mean presenter X costs us 480k (I'm going with the 20% as it is NK after all)
from the article -
Another Dublin-based talent agent, who wishes to remain anonymous, says Kelly will have his work cut out for him if he is to make serious headway in Britain.
"Not that he's doing too badly at the moment. I'd have thought that he'd be on a 15pc to 20pc commission per client. That would be the industry norm."
Also, what the hell were RTE doing signing up people for 5 year contracts? 5 years! Schoolboy/rookie errors there. They have their own highly paid legal team and they thought 'Yeah 5 year contracts, no problem, there's no possible downside there at all' - That in itself was enough to prove that these sh!te presenters were never likely to get a better offer anywhere else. 2 year contracts at the max - at the end of each contract, a simple re-signing, job done. Idiots!
It's like a hospital run entirely by 1st year medical students on consultants pay
And there we go! That's awful, if true.
I'm not sure it'll get through to the big wigs (or anyones) . I wonder does rt have a .rte.ie email address
The link to my poll is below.
Led Zeppelin are better than The Who.
As your reservations have leaned towards RT I will take them with a pinch of salt.
Win win win for Tubridy, RTE and Noel Kelly if true. Even less hope of accountability now if funding of rte is mandatory and you can't refuse.
Its amazing how RTE are such a failed organisation yet come out of this on top.
I was lazy and didn't.
Boards.ie polls are notoriously out of step with the “real world”, Skimp. Peter Casey would be president if it was up to, certain, Boards.ie users.
Another poll on here had Led Zeppelin as better than The Who. You’ll forgive me if I have my “reservations” about this new poll’s findings.
Imagine if callers broke the Switchboard at RTE, or even better if callers into Joe Duffy told his producers they were going to talk about todays topic but once they got on air they changed tack and said get the greedy bollix RT of the air.
RT didnt lick it off a stamp says you.
If Bakhurst wants to have any credibility he has to boot Tubridy out. If he doesn’t then there has to be widespread refusal to pay any fee. In addition if Tubridy is reinstated then his show needs to be deluged with phone calls form the public saying one thing…….get that bollix off air now
Tubridy is a greedy self obsessed fukker and warrants total disdain from every right thinking citizen
Are you allowed to post link here?
We have been hearing over the past few days that public opinion wants RT back with RTE.
I have created a poll on the Current Affairs/IMHO to see if the members of Boards agree with the public opinion.
Did you get that from chatgpt?
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