Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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Enough of this ridiculous flim flamin
Time for Revenue to get involved because this is beyond the beyonds.
Is it Brian Stanley? If so then you wouldn’t be dealing with one of the great political minds of his generation.
RTE circling the wagons.
Noel Kelly being accused of lying.
Riveting stuff . Well done senator. That’s a very good example of some/ each member of these committees having ONE specific issue to EXPLORE. - and 10 min may not be enough to dig out such detail and get such an ‘ ALL OVER THE FLOOR ‘ response
Why was payment made in advance - especially by a commercial company - unless it got a big discount
This 10 min limit worked a treat for RT and NK Just like a boxer knowing that he is ahead by two rounds with one round to go. He only has to stay standing for the final round to win - if victory goes to the boxer who wins the most rounds
The Chair has very poor delivery. Seems to have good points to make at times but his delivery of same lets him down badly
I had the same thought. He ran rings around RTE for years. What we the great unwashed got to see of him, on Tuesday was very much less than impressive.
So is he the clever agent who looked out for his clients by squeezing all he could from RTE for them or were those he was dealing with in RTE an absolute pushover? Answers on a postcard please...
Something that's nagging in my head from what I read and the bits I watched on Tuesday was mention of a taxi fare of nigh on one thousand euro 🥺 for Tubridy to go and to from a function in Drogheda, a Renault function maybe, I forget the exact details.
But that was presumably signed off without a blink. And yet Dee Forbes was constantly looking for more money for RTE. Crazy what was allowed to go on. Absolutely crazy.
This "he brings in so much advertising revenue" line is very debatable.
I think advertisers need to advertise. They will do it at certain times of the day to hit certain demographics. Are they advertising just cos Tubs is there? I'm not so sure. Do they pull their adverts when Tubs take a week off? No they don't.
I completely agree with that. Tubridy isn’t worth his wages because they are certainly over market value.
But reacting to Tubridys case with a cap on wages is an overreaction I think. It’s possible in future that RTE will have presenters that have actual offers from rivals/abroad, and RTE need to be able to compete with those offers. Maybe a mechanism needs to be put in place that any offer over a certain amount would need to go through a PAC review so they can be satisfied that it’s an appropriate and competitive offer.
Evidence already that Noel Kelly had a meeting alone with Dee Forbes, despite him saying that he had never met her alone.
Noel Kelly was fibbing ???
Say it's not true !!
He seemed so trustworthy
RTE obviously as they think the world revolves around RTE.
Eh RTÉ? 🤪
RTE are outbidding RTE
Who does that?
I think "competitive salary" is the key point there. It's clear that RTE were paying a lot of the top presenters far more than a competitive salary, considering that those presenters were unlikely to have been able to get a similar salary elsewhere. A somewhat flexible cap to make sure salaries are competitive, but realistic, would be a good idea. As RTE themselves admitted in a previous committee meeting, RTE were essentially bidding against themselves with the offers they were making. Doing so is itself a mismanagment of public funds.
One lad confirming he isn't fired
YET
They can have a cap on salary as I said and then links to advertising, so if a presenter is bringing in huge advertisements then they can get a percentage of that. Better than just paying someone a million and then wondering will anyone actually buy advertisement. That is what they do now and D'Arcy is an example of this is the wrong model
I already posted this numerous times on the thread. We now have people saying pay them all a max of 100k which is ridiculous. Now you want to pay someone 1m which is also ridiculous, well sorry if they bring in 100m of advertisement then fire ahead but not a basic salary
Lynch is already annoying me with his head nodding
I wonder how many he treats like friends or have previously?
Hahah RTE investigates.....
As well as family, he also believes he has many friends in RTE....
Why should RTE have a cap, no exceptions?
If they were to have a presenter that’s wildly popular with the public and therefore helps bring in sponsorship money, why should they be in a situation to lose this person because they’re prohibited from offering a competitive salary?
RTE have completely mismanaged public funds which is the key issue. If they feel they should pay someone a certain wage they should be free to do so as long as they can provide clear evidence of it. And if revenues go down, then they should be able to negotiate a lower salary.
They should have Tubs, Kelly and the executive at one meeting. Let them fire shots across the table at each others
Thats the thing, everyone goes on about how great Tubs is, yet him or none of his supporters want him out of RTE. Why? I can guess but would love someone, or even Tubs to explain. Nobody believe the "RTE are family" bullsh*t
I don’t know what sort of payments TV3 make to their “talent” but it’s a very limited market either way in Ireland- RTE certainly have the opportunity to be more aggressive now with their negotiations for run of the mill presenters but the commercial realities still haven’t changed- so you lose a talent to the opposition for the sake of 50k or 100j?
Maybe that’s a decision they’ll consider but at the cost of potentially millions in lost revenue and handing that to the opposition?
Theres only a certain few in Ireland -the Tubridys Kennys Duffys Dempseys etc that can bring in sack fulls of cash - if you let one of those go, you’re essentially saying I don’t need all that revenue.
They’re paid sick amounts of money for what they do, yes- but I think RTÉ may be forced to keep paying similar amounts.
In terms of Kielty, he’s an unknown entity right now in terms of how he’ll perform- if TLLS does well, he’ll certainly be in a great negotiation position next time around- so he’s currently untested- I’d say that’s why his fee is quite low- but I was surprised just how low the fee was.
I think it’s the lesser “talent” that will suffer at the end of the day- negotiations will be more ruthless- take it or leave it offers will become the norm- possibly programming quality will suffer but maybe lesser paid new talent hungry to make a strong impression could emerge from this also.
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If you are Noel Kelly competition you will be lapping this up. Ringing up everyone and telling them to watch. Why would you want to go with this clown who can't write invoices, doesn't know anybody in RTE and doesn't seem to be able to negotiate a contract without RTE telling him what to put into it.
He managed to make himself look more incompetent than the RTE executive and that was an extremely hard thing to do
No
If they are paying him a million from commercial then the tax payer will need to cover the loss of that money to other sections of the busines
If he wants a million then head to private tv stations etc. RTE should have a cap, like it or leave. No TV presenter should be bigger than RTE and that is what we have now
There should be a cap on how much public money goes into presenter wages.
I couldn’t care if they pay him a million a week as long as they can prove their paying him from the commercial side of RTE.
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Because of the core nature of the business that NK runs , RT being probably his BIGGEST / most lucrative talent and Renault being a serious client - re a lot of money for promoting - I would say that NK was very acutely aware of the role that each individual / company involved had to play. As I said it’s his business to know - especially who is the paymaster , for what, etc, etc, etc. It did not matter whether you are ‘ a small or a big company’ !!!! you are going to be invoiced and you pay up. There is an important TALENT of mine needing to be paid FOR SERVICES PROVIDED !,!!!!
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