that'll be handy for anyone heading to or from the airport especiially if you have an Ev rental to return and youre looking to avoid the 100Euro+ penalty for not having the thing charged to whatever level they are looking for.
Good location for it too. Right across from a massive ESB substation or more importantly, with a car fill of kids, a shopping centre/ Mc Donalds/ Kfc also right by it (Mc Donalds is always good for toilets and milkshakes/ coffee even if you are semi allergic to its food)
Sure maybe in 10 to 20 years time the owners of Ionity (VW, Ford, BMW etc) might get their finger out and have all the cars they make actually compatible in a plug and play way with the chargers they own. FFS, they own the chargers, they make the cars, how can they not sort it that it works together like Tesla (and I know its coming but christ, you'd swear they didnt want Evs to succeed or something).
I thought it was going into the car park across from the shopping centre. This seems a much better location.
VW and Ford already have Plug&Charge with Ionity. BMW are due to roll it out later this year. Hyundai are starting it with the Ioniq 6
Another planning permission this time SSE in Rahtcoole. 5 Raption 150 units each with 2 plugs. The location is a bit interesting
https://planning.agileapplications.ie/southdublin/application-details/64211
Is it not properly implemented, very buggy or what is the reason that they are making very little effort in promoting what could be a gamechanger technology?
For instance heres the VW blurb on how to charge on the go https://www.volkswagen.ie/en/new-cars/new-id3.html/__layer/layers/models/id3-pa/charging/laden-unterwegs/master.layer
doesnt mention anything about swish easy charging , just apps and random promises that you may have a charger in a shop nearby (which to me is a laughable claim as theres not a single shop anywhere near me has a charger, 240V standard AC outlet in one place excepted !!) or work.
VW have plug and charge. Hyundai meant to be coming as well later this year.
As you go into the detail of WeCharge it goes into Plug&Charge capabilities. It requires the car to be updated ID software version 3.1 or higher.
In Irish terms Plug&Charge isn't particularly game changing so I can see why they don't feel the need to put it front and centre on the ID.3 page.
It was game changing 11 years ago when Tesla did it, now it's expected.
What a dump of a location, right in the middle of an industrial estate with nothing around it
There's at least some food shops nearby, but I wouldn't be too happy sitting there in the evening while charging up to get to Cork
I can't really see what SSE are aiming for, their last couple of locations were in similar holes
Well ****
Sales are down across all model types, EV as well as combustion, pointing to a general downturn in interest for the brand
Meanwhile Tesla and MG registrations are going up, so I'm guessing the competition is eating up EV sales
Customers are understandably wary of spending more money on a car during a period of high interest rates and inflation, particularly when that brand doesn't seem to particularly offer better value than the competition
I guess they're just going to have to cut prices like they said they wouldn't 😏
If they can get the prices back down to where they were for the ID 1st editions then they may become competitive again.
I think you're right, although I've no idea how they're going to manage that in the next year without either taking a loss or cutting something significant
They're still working on cutting costs on the battery production and I think the target for their in-house production is 2025
Normally they could use the combustion cars to subsidise the EVs, but if sales are down there as well then that's out
Maybe they'll start releasing a lower spec version with less junk on-board to bring the price down
EV start-up Go Eve raises £3m in funding round
The company is pioneering a charging technology, DockChain, that is trying to make high-power DC charging more competitive with slower AC charging by extending single rapid chargers to multiple parking spaces through a daisy chain of lower cost charging terminals.
The software can manage a virtual queue of vehicles waiting to be charged, bringing power to the connected vehicles and eliminating down time as cars move on and off the charger.
VW are already lower spec compared to their competition. Their base models are pretty bare bones as it is.
Looks good, but it seems very similar to the Kempower system. I hope it works out well, a system like this could be the key to enabling fast chargers at scale in the likes of supermarkets
Looks like our neighbours across the pond are getting some very good news.
Lord Musk's ultra hardcore website doesn't work for me (which I consider a good thing 😁)
I don't suppose you could send on the quick summary? 🥺
Summary
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The European Parliament approved today the Regulation on on the deployment of alternative fuels infrastructure, and repealing the previous directive on alternative fuels infrastructure. It being upgraded to a regulation means that member states aren't able to apply their own interpretation like you can with a directive. It still needs to be approved by the Commission before it goes into effect.
The regulation calls for minimum infrastructure per km on the Ten-T Core and Comprehensive road networks (charging pool is a collection of chargers aka hub)
Core: by 31 Dec 2025, 1 charging pool of 400kW with at least 1 150kW charger, by 31 Dec 2027 1 600kW of 600kW with at least 2 150kW chargers every 60km in each direction
Comprehensive: by 31 Dec 2027, at least 50% of the network must have a pool of 300kW with at least 1 150kW charger every 60km in each direction.
Pools for each direction can be combined.
Any charger that is publicly accessible must allow ad-hoc charging via either a payment card reader or a contactless reader that is at least able to read payment cards, operators have until 1 January 2027 to ensure that all existing chargers (50kW and up) are updated to allow ad-hoc payments. A single payment terminal can be shared between all chargers in a pool.
For operators offering automatic authentication the user must be presented with a way to cancel the automated authentication and go with an ad-hoc payment.
For any charging points 50kW and up, the pricing must be based on price per kWh but a price per minute can be additionally added to discourage long occupancy, the operator must show this ad-hoc pricing before a charging sessions starts. MSP's also must show this information clearly via electronic means and are not allowed to charge a cross border roaming fee. CPO's aren't allowed to discriminate
Publicly accessible recharging or refuelling points include, for example, privately owned recharging or refuelling points accessible to the public that are located on public or private property, such as public parking areas or parking areas of supermarkets. A recharging or refuelling point located on private property that is accessible to the public should be considered to be publicly accessible also in cases where access is restricted to a certain general group of users, for example to clients.
It's for sure not as strict as the UK regulation, would of loved to see them put some uptime standards and forced e-roaming compatibility into the regulation.
I was listening to a pod cast last night with an MG dealer (they sell other brands too but it was an MG owners podcast) and he said the flip in supply, interest and sales is having a big impact in the last few months.
That over the last two years around 30% of all inquiries were for EVs, but their supply was around 8% so there was huge demand.
Now interest in EVs has dropped to about 10% of all inquiries, but supply is 20%. With so much supply the wait times of a year ago that were 12-18 months are now 3-6 weeks.
I see it myself, Tesla, VW, polestar all with inventory you can buy today.
But on the flip side second hand value is tanking. Which is driving up PCP finance rates too. They also have to deal with the loss of the grant (UK) and the rise in electricity. Making it more expensive to make to step up.
So for VW who have an under spec'd, over priced car I'm not surprised interest has dropped. Tesla really shook up the market with the price drop.
I’m not sure second hand EV prices are “tanking”. I think we’re seeing the used market level out with realistic depreciation rates. The last few years have seen the market distorted because of Covid, unprecedented supply/demand issues and recent interest rate rises. Obviously folks that bought a Model Y last year for over €70K have taken a huge hit because of the exceptional Tesla price cuts but this a very small group of owners. Maybe the Model Y was overpriced here to start with as Tesla transitioned from niche premium to mass market volume.
Exactly this, tired of people saying the EV market is tanking because after 2 years we're starting to see secondhand models at a reduced cost rather than the new RRP for a year old car. If people are so concerned with values then stick to brands that have good equity.
APR reaching a sky high 8-9% certainly didn't help people jump at buying.
People need to stop acting like cars are the stock market. I'd be more concerned about the high cost ICE being worth something in 3 years when EV sales have been increasing rapidly year on year. We know not everyone can afford €50-60k+ family size EVs, there's going to be a lot of demand for secondhand over the years, the cost to change has increased in recent years so people will be holding onto their cars a bit longer or more likely going secondhand. There will still be plenty of new cars bought.
If people are that concerned with values then keep your deposit at 10% and hope you get it back in equity for trade-in time...
Electric buses shambles typical of State’s costly inability to deliver
The National Transport Authority (NTA) bought 134 brand new all-electric buses in June 2022 for use in Dublin. There are 100 new double-decker buses and 34 single-deck electric buses in storage around the city, but none are in use because the NTA failed to get planning permission for the charging infrastructure to enable them to operate. An NTA spokesperson said that the project to plan, commission and seek planning approval for the infrastructure is now “under way”. The buses cost us at least €50 million and we don’t yet know the cost of the unbuilt charging infrastructure.
I'm sure this story will be far more popular that the Turbridy shenanigans when it comes before the PAC🤔
I read that headline a few days ago and assumed that the project to fit the chargers was just slow because ESBN were involved but that story makes it sound much worse! It sounds like DB procured the buses in a reasonable time but the NTA were unable to even start their side of the project. Where were NTA procuring chargers that will presumably be fitted in DB bus depots anyway?
From my resent experience of trading in a 3 yr old id3 I can’t say I noticed tanking in 2nd hand prices I got €26k for it, cost me 33/34k 3yrs ago(normal enough depreciation) I also wouldn’t consider them under spec’d, probably over priced but what isn’t at the moment. 12 to 14 week wait for factory spec’d which is what it always was pre 2020.
I'm just going on what he said. That a car they would have given 18k trade in for is now only getting 13k. People who had been waiting on a delivery for 6 months now have to find an extra 5k which can be hard.
The main reason is that finance companies are pricing in the market corrections and are de-risking used EVs.
I can't access this article as it's behind a pay wall. I heard a few weeks ago from.a contact in Dublin bus that the chargers were ready to be installed but they did not realise planning was needed, and are only now applying. That's third hand gossip. My understanding is NTA normally procure all the busses, and in this case maybe the chargers too.
Assuming it's only a planning timeline it should not take too long. ESB networks grid upgrades can take 1+ years so hopefully the grid can handle the demand.