Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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Yes I get on quite well with senior management too. Some of them even do try to fight the culture there but they can't. They're so far and long into the system that it will never change. The same thing is going on at RTE.
It happened over a decade ago…
If thats the case she is one of the very very few people with an attitude like that in HSE. All organisations have bad workers and she sounds like one of them. The majority of the staff in the HSE ended up working around the clock to keep people safe while it all came crashing down around them.
So complain about your relation but don't try throwing everyone else in the HSE into the same category as her.
Somehow I doubt this relation even exists as this is internet and shock is the order of the day.
Based on what I’ve heard I’d describe that as accurate to a certain degree. He could certainly command and demand an audience with the DG and other Exec. Committee Members and would be granted same.
There are many people however in RTÉ who probably wouldn’t have had a clue as to who Noel Kelly was until 2.5 weeks ago. Obviously they all know now.
I’d also imagine he’ll get a very different reception “going forward” if he rocks up to the place. I think he knows himself he’d not be very welcome there by most anymore. In fact, I doubt he’ll ever set foot in the place again.
Sorry to side track the thread, but We never had a full revolution. We’re nothing like the French.
Like most mainland European countries, their economy is built on colonialism, slavery, and empire in the past, present, and future. For one example, just look at their history with Algeria. Like The UK, Spain, and Italy, they subjectify their own people and take the same structures and their language and plant them by force on other nations and take their resources and use their economies for their own benefit.
France has great PR worldwide but its ruling elite is rotten at its core. An extremely racist culture that will reap the rewards of its past for decades to come. France is more like the UK. Just take a look up North…
Nepotism.
like darcy bringing his wife at a massive cost with him to Rte.
One of my relations is a senior manager in the HSE and she told me she was delighted with the ransomware attack because it meant she didn't have to do any work for a few days.
I got sick in my mouth as there was obviously real suffering/cancellations from the delays, that very clear point did not seem to compute. And with such behaviours and attitudes, how will their ever be positive transformation and change.
BTW I get on well with this relation but she is completely institutionalised into a terrible organisational culture so it's not something to fall out over.
And the amount of jobs I have seen pushed out going into grades a few levels up sickening.
A rotten organisation.
That is sad and a terrible tragedy for him and his family on a personal level.
It does not however excuse his performances at the committees, or in his role.
She does a lot of corporate hosting gigs. I was at a conference she MCed a few weeks back.
Slowing down the children's hospital is the worst outcome for the government. They need it open and running. Cutting a ribbon a month before election would be a disaster for them. So I think you need to find a better source of information. For the current government if it was open tomorrow it would be perfect for them.
The biggest issue we have in Ireland is the unions are so strong that you could sit on your arse for 30 years doing nothing and you still couldn't get fired in a government department. No accountability. Nobody ever gets fired
I think the best example of Ireland is the amount of Independents we have in government. People who have no intention at all of doing anything good for Ireland, they have no view of what is good for Ireland. They get voted in on a nod & a wink. Then sit in the Dail for 5 years, fired out a few snippets on youtube/tiktok etc and people vote them back in. Why? well they fixed planning or fixed the road etc. The Healy Rae clan is a extreme version of this, millionaires yet asked for funding to run for last election.
You will never get anything done in Ireland when you have a Dail full of independents who couldn't care less if all of Ireland fell to pieces once they get to keep the pension etc.
I suggest you go to a 3rd World country and look at services before making that accusation.
Well some of his "talent" such as Joe "can barely string a sentence together" Duffy will be covering the Dail committee's grilling of their agent Noel Kelly! that's a real example of the power he has.
I'm beginning to think we're a country of simpletons.
You see it all over this thread. Some posters are outraged that we would upset the status quo and establishment. They would rather 'tip the cap' that uncover the truth and reform our public service broadcaster. It's a terrible flaw.
Not wrong there Edward.
Ah stop. The exact same. I worked in the HSE's biochemistry lab years ago. I seen relatives give their son or daughter temp jobs. These were often complete incompetent, entitled and took up huge amounts of training time. They also expected the job and felt entitled to it rather than really wanted it. Therefore, they didn't work as hard. I pointed this out and I was told "shur I would put a son or daughter in a role they weren't qualified for too". No I really wouldn't. I was also told by someone I know from the civil service (who is also on Boards) that I shouldn't complain about nepotism because some people get references from their former boss and that's the same thing.
It was mentioned already by someone else but the HSE procurement for supplies goes to contractors with the best placed relatives or friends. The HSE used to pay three times what they needed to for some supplies.
I pointed this out and the same type of gombeens that defend RTE here came back with "ah shure look isn't there nothing wrong with helping friend's businesses".
Reading this thread has put me in no doubt that nothing is changed. There's an incredibly childish way of doing business coupled with complete idiots defending them.
I heard somewhere that NK could park up at Montrose and walk into any office he wanted at any time. The suggestion was that he had major influence and could get an appointment with the Board/Exec at any time. Is that true?
I hope you educated him on the Irish people's rather long history of prostrating themselves for the powers that be. Rebellions more the exception than the rule.
Absolutely tragic. You know, I sense that man is being used as a scapegoat.
He's failed in his role as CFO by taking verbal assurances on very serious items and thus his position is untenable that can't be denied. However nothing will convince otherwise that GOL and DF and some others are the real vipers.
Incorrect,pal.
Fcukkker is on my coverlet between Mr Perfect and Mr Mischief.
Never liked the kernt.
That is tragic. I'd like to see Collins lashing into the likes of O'Leary and Coveney and tell everyone that they were abusing the barter accounts and not telling him accurate details. O'Leary said she was told to put some of Tubs/NK hidden payments down as Consultancy fees. We need to know who told her. I am convinced she is hiding the truth and telling porkies. Nevertheless Collins has been incompetent and allowed the Executive to operate in financial silos.
Where did you hear that about the Children's Hospital? I wouldn't be a bit surprised. FFG are a disgusting government when it comes to national interest. Party before Country all the time.
Just reading about Richard Collins' wife dieing after being hit by a fallen tree in February 2011, 45 years old. That's very tragic. 3 children 7-14.
Tubs looks likes crying on the front of The Sunday Times.
Pure sympathy picture. Grow up ffs.
I was in Paris for business last week. I stayed with a Parisian friend and he told me the same thing. He mentioned that the Irish tri-color is inspired by France's flag and we used to have a rebellious nature. Now we allow ourselves to get looted by organisations such as the HSE, RTE and all the rest. The country is only run for a select few.
No, he identifies as gender fluid so is now a They Them character.
That was quite a few days ago, and when that interview was given, I doubt Martin King knew all the details.
We now know that Tubridy had a written guarantee from Forbes that his pay wouldn't be cut. Then the pay statements every year, he knew were lies.
And then his pay was 'funneled' thru NK, after being funneled through companies in the UK.
Tbqh, there's little if anything that Tubridy did honestly. You only have to talk to the 200 employees who protested upon hearing of the s**tshow that went on in the company.
When the Forbes letter was printed in full, there were reports of RTE employees crying. You just know that they had to take a very harsh cut to their pay in order to accommodate Tubridy's pockets.
He might have been the least 'culpable', but he's hardly innocent. It's like saying Henry Hill was a nicer guy than Tommy DeVito in Goodfellas. Both were involved in 'immorality', just one's hands were dirtier than the other.
The level of comfort to do that during a time of serious scrutiny is what worries me. Why did she feel so comfortable to do that, was there someone in Govt happy to facilitate and have these type of unscheduled requests been facilitated before?
There is more digging there I think.
I lived in France for a time when I was younger, and am a frequent visitor. There would be protests in the street if not riots at some of this stuff. I know France is not perfect, but sometimes I wish we were more like the French.
I left and came back in 2019 and agree with you, I love the country and our people but I'm very slowly starting to look towards international opportunities again.
We are a rabidly docile nation and on the whole people prefer to ignore longstanding issues. The health system has been in the **** for 20 years and there is lads/ladies in admin levels still creaming 6 figure salary's going unchecked.
The children's hospital delivery is being purposely slowed down for political reasons aswell i.e election. Cut the ribbon a month before job. I had a conniption when I heard that.
Incredibly immature country that needs to grow the **** up.
I do not believe thread is not reflective of the anger in the entire country. A lot of people are saying "sure they harmed no one" "he's a good lad etc". We seem to be worsening by the decade.
As a country - we have a mask on. Absolute pretend 1st world country with 3rd world services.
Thank **** for MNCs. That's what's keeping the few bob in people's pockets to keep them happy - for now.
It was her only "solution" for the entire duration of her tenure, go running with the paw out for taxpayers money 🙄
Things that could have been done
Address payroll / headcount -nope
Increase commercial revenue - nope
Streamline the organisation - nope
Demonstrate value for money for the taxpayer money they're already recieving - f0ck that
Indeed Steady, remember the ads. for welfare cheats were on T V were “putting their hands in your pocket” the reaction was kind of ‘shure fair play to them if they can get away with it’
We seem to admire the sharp cove who can ‘beat the system’ but fail to realise he or she is actually butt reaming you as a compliant and responsible taxpayer.
That is the problem in RTE, far too much secrecy and cloud over what goes on out there .
No spokespersons produced in situations where needed. Eg Birthday gate, and salaries paid from taxpayers money.
Unless all this stuff is exploded and a light shone into the dark corners then all this is a waste of time.