Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Is that the same Leo Bolger that said he introduced Bailey to Sophie and was convicted of drug dealing?
Yes Leo Bolger of the miraculous memory (remembering such a trivial at the time incident) and the light sentencing (for such a sophisticated drugs operation).
Further on Leo Bolger's suspiciously light sentence.
Here's a recent court case. 5 years jail time.
Judge Crowe noted that O’Donnell had pleaded guilty early, had given information to the gardaí and had no previous convictions bar a minor driving offence.
Passing sentence on Wednesday, Judge Orla Crowe initially set a headline sentence of seven years, but reduced this to five years on account of the mitigating factors.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-jailed-for-having-almost-e260000-worth-of-cannabis-1492245.html
Am I missing something? Only O'Donnell mentioned in the article.
I was trying to put into perspective how light Bolger's sentence was in comparison. Not very well apparently :)
Fair enough.
But Bolger was only trying to eke out a living on the magnificent Mizen peninsula having lost his livelihood as a horse breeder because of a neighbours crow- banger. So he deserved leniency.
Oh and he happened to remember a fact that happened to be helpful to the Gardaí at the time!
More about this here.
If Bolger made money with drugs, he certainly didn't make lot's. At the same time losing your livelihood as a horse breeder doesn't really justify leniency regarding dealing drugs. These things should have been explored back at that time, now it's a bit too late. Is Bolger still alive? Or too senile for anything? What's he doing now in terms of making a living?
https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120558086/#Comment_120558086
A lot of people with suspicious scratches the following day. I would say it was a group of people murdered her. Bailey, Lyons, French speaker seen with scratches on his face and others most likely.
A group of people eh....???
That's even more amazing... Not one jot of evidence left at the crime scene by a bunch of collaborating killers.
Kinda makes sense now.. Bailey got a spin home by the French speaker, and I guess Alfie just went back to bed.
Sorted!
It could have been more that one. At least more to clean up afterwards.
One person involved in committing the murder and more than one person involved in the aftermath in destroying evidence.
Think about it. They all had valid reasons to traipse over the crime scene the next day. Bailey to take photos, Alfie to go to his house and the French speaker probably posed as a journalist. All valid reasons that nobody would think to question..
What evidence is there of Bailey traipsing over the crime scene the next day?
Or this Frenchman posing as a journalist or being in the immediate vicinity?
Could be a couple involved in comitting the murder, as for destroying the evidence, probably more than one Garda involved.
These are things they wouldn't have informed us about
The murder was committed by one person. That person - who acted alone when murdering Sophie Bouniol by inflicting repeated blows to her head - was not acting alone in the aftermath of the murder in the destruction of evidence in that another or others had knowledge of their acts and did not come forward to Gardaí with the totality of their knowledge and information at the time (perhaps out of fear, apprehension and shock and given they themselves had been living in fear of the murderer).
Oh! I see what you're saying, but what evidence was destroyed, and how?
You are making multiple statements of fact here without foundation.
That might be your theory as to how it happened, but at present your statements of fact have no standing.
Alfie said he was minding a dog for the neighbours but why would you bring a strange dog into your house?
I could understand you'd mind the dog if it was friendly but this dog bit Alfie
If the neighbours were travelling?
You’re fond of the odd bout of statements without foundation yourself. The foundation supporting my comment might be stronger than you think.
You know yourself sure. Blood stained clothing, a small axe head, et cetera. With attempts made to destroy evidence by fire.
Well I don't have proof but I just have a feeling..
Go to the Guards then if you have proof?
But of course you havent.. when you respond with deflections and vague insinuations. Its your theory based on your reading of what facts are available. Dont confuse the two and present it as statements of fact.
There is enough confusion already on the thread about some of the 'facts' due to all the different media sources (Irish, UK, French, print, TV) as it is.
Its the job of the prosecution services to present the facts, we are all looking forward to that day. Well, most of us. All bar the defendant.
But there are no facts bar the murdered body besides the gate..
There is an ocean of circumstantial evidence that can be twisted and molded to meet any outcome you prefer... But not hard evidence like the type that would convict a person.
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