They are not selling this in the UK, will they sell it here ?
From €17,890 in Europe ( assume it would qualify for the €5K EV grant here if it was sold here ? )
Its just hit Italian markets and is the forth best seller this month, apparently its price could be halved by Italian incentives according to this article:
https://cleantechnica.com/2021/07/29/italys-ev-sales-keep-growing-in-june-as-dacia-spring-hits-the-market/
Spring is produced in China and sold in Europe under Dacia brand. Since the launch, Spring was on top sales in France, Italy and Romania. They have orders from car sharing companies and simply can't produce enough cars LHD. They've increased the price from around 17k at launch to 22k with the optional DC charging. That is before incentives. If you count in the incentives in Romania they range from 10-12k or up to 6k and no road tax equivalent for 5 years in Italy and similar in France. As UK is out of EU which means different certification from ours, the RHD model would need to be certified for us, Cyprus and Malta (both non-existent EV markets). Absolutely no incentive. If they will do it will be to cover some green creds for Renault.
If they do bring it here, it will probably be €25k after any grants and rebate but we are such a small market, I doubt they will do so though. Shame really, as I think that a small EV would do very well here.
The really annoying part is that it's based on a Renault K-ZE produced in India which is RHD already
So it looks like the Dacia Spring will be on sale in the UK from the Summer of 2024. Whether that means it will come here too or not I do not know.
This says the UK model will be RHD and be a refreshed model
And Dacia Ireland say it is coming here too
Ah. I must have read it wrong. Could have sworn it said it will not be offered in right hand drive only as a left hand drive on that exact article.
No that'd be the Tesla Model S, apparently it's impossible to make a €100k+ car into RHD but it can be done for a sub €20k one 😂
Should be take bets on Irish prices?
Remember the grant starts going down below €18k and doesn't apply below €14k
And apparently the new version will have a 27kWh battery
I'm gonna throw my hat in at €24k new, far higher than the EU price but that's never stopped someone profiteering before now 🙄
Well, considering the Jogger can be had for about 10k less in other markets in the EU then I would say you are not far off with your prediction. Mid €20k range for sure due to the "Treasure Ireland" effect and that would be the after grant price (which is now €3.5k, down from the €5k it was before July).
I would say €22,000 starting price for it here.
I admire your optimism, the VW E-Up is currently €27,850 after grants so Dacia just have to aim a few thousand lower and they've undercut the only competing EV in that segment
For a 44hp 150km range Golf cart with a max speed of 120km/h?
Who's gonna buy that when you can get a lovely Fabia for the same price
Needs to be 15k for something like that
A proper car 5 years ago, Ioniq 28kWh was 22k
There are a huge number of car owners in this country who never go over 100km/h, be they town/city dwellers, rural only drivers, old folk or used as second cars.
But agree, this car needs to come in at under 20k
So it seems it is going to come in here after all
That is literally what @JohnC. posted earlier at 8.53am and kick started this conversation again!
It did, the article was changed after it was published.
All cars were and pretty much everything else was way cheaper 5 years ago.
Oh I'm sorry. I read about coming in the UK. My bad
As low as €12k depending on local market and Gov incentives.
Why can't they just quote prices gross of Govt incentives so it's easier to compare actual price charged by manufacturers across different markets? While high EV prices are often defended due to high cost of batteries, with claims that manufacturers have a tiny margin on EVs, it's still the case that they can somehow sell cars €'000 cheaper in some markets and yet presumably make a profit. Quoting prices net of incentives assists with this confusion
Agreed. It's smoke and mirrors everywhere. Costs are uniform but profits vary by market appetite for prices.
Spring would be an ideal day to day city car for anyone in Ireland.
In DE prices are 22.75k for Essential and 24.55k for Extreme before incentives. 4.5 grant, lease with 0.99% APR, around 85/month advertised.
In FR 20.8k Essential and 22.3k Extreme. 5k grants so 16k cheapest
IT 21.5k -23.2k before incentives. unclear what they are.
B 21k - 22.7k before incentives unclear what they are
RO 20.8k - 22.45k Incentives 10k+ So probably here is where the price is down to 12k.
Prices went up since launch. For us here , I reckon would be at 19.99k mark for the cheapest which I feel it is a lot of money for such a little car. One would be better with a 6 years old Kona. Who knows maybe prices would come down in a year time.
Thank you. I knew it.
Thanks for that information. I'd be surprised if the base price here would be less that other EU markets. Would agree €20k is high for that class of car. Having said that 300km is a decent enough range but would like to see how the meagre 44hp motor will work.
Also surprised to see the RO base price comparable to other markets. I wonder is that influenced by the very generous grant.
300km???? That's pretty ambitious with only a 27kWh battery
180km might be closer to real world range
The ID3 starts at $16,500 in China.
Is that price net or gross of incentives?
Could see it hit 250km in urban driving. It's a tiny car with a tiny motor so should be reasonably economical.
Yeah true enough, it could be driven very economically
Still, if you're going from one side of Dublin to the other for example, you'd probably take the M50, which would eat up a chunk of range
I guess if you've got enough to get there and back it'll do, and if the price is reasonable then it'll be hard to argue with
I did manage almost 3 years of driving around Leinster in a Leaf24, so it's definitely doable
I don't think that matters, once your moving it's aerodynamics and your foot will be on the floor with that 44bhp anyway, which won't be good
I would be surprised if it's more economical than a slippy EV like an Ioniq 28kwh or noticeably better than an ancient Leaf
