Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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Up above, you claimed that RTE were using their barter account to hide providing free cars to people. This is patent nonsense - the barter accounts have been examined, and no such activity exists. The barter account was indeed used to top up Tubridy's salary when Renault pulled out of a deal with him, and for other identified questionable expenditure. These are facts, and need to be accounted for. You're saying "they used the barter account for to pay Tubridy - there's no reason to believe they weren't using it for free cars for everyone too", even though we know what the barter accounts were actually used for. Can you not see how this makes no sense? It actually undermines the requirement for accountability for what did happen.
You've decided that you can't believe anything, therefore anything could be true. This is intellectual nihilism. You're entitled to engage in it, sure, but you risk losing all credibility by doing so.
Sticking to the facts isn't too much to ask.
Did you not see my ignore sentence?
So he is referring to “small” people? Did he call them “small people?”
At least he was very fair in his judgements
Oh wait till you hear the bulls**t….it will be throwing everyone under the bus to try save his own skin
The proper thing to do to stop hypocritical moralists not paying for something while complaining all year about it is to have the licence fee gathered via your electricity bill. I’d also properly fund it - thinking at least 250 euro. I’d also link the RTE Player to the licence.
Have a re read of my post Olivia.
A “loan” of a car for 5 years
The car was payment for event he done “free”
Car was put in place “Adhoc” but stayed for 5 years
the quick return of the car once they started to look into presenters with cars after first PAC
Hasnt Marty come out and said he is going to revenue to confirm the status
I could go on but I think you get the point at this stage.
I don't get you? Some people have difficulty blowing whistles, especially with their local club and community where they could be an outcast and their kids. And they might not be 100% sure of having enough evidence.
He’s referring to them as “small” people is he? On Twitter? A likely story.
What a crock, comparing the use of a car for five years to a bag of spuds.
Lookit, Seanie, why did a certain RTE staffer get the use of a car for five years.
Why did I never get an offer of the use of a car for five years ?
Because I have nothing to give back, that’s why.
If you can’t see the toxic correlation between a supposedly neutral public service breoadcaster and private commercial concerns, then you’re a bigger fool than I thought you were.
Go back and think again, Seanie.
The letter from Dee Forbes addressed to him guaranteeing no pay cut will be hard to explain away.
Playing the idiot isn't a good look for his reputation either.
If he is that clueless he has no business presenting a TV \ radio public affairs programme.
Oh I’m sure his excuse will be he doesn’t look after the day to day, that’s the job of his accountant and agent
it was an oversight, will rectify and if it happens again he will be aware, blah blah blah
Maybe some people's moral compass got run over by a brand ambassador picking up their latest Toyota/Renolt/BMW/Hummer
Oh. Here we go. This could move the non payment of tv licence needle.
Edit: actually, at the end of the piece the Judge still says he'll be convicting people where necessary.
Strongly worded stuff from the Judge, though.
So someone blow a whistle, no?
ignore that.. it’s silly
In November 2019, he said publicly he'd take a pay cut.
In July 2020, Forbes wrote him a letter undertaking that "the fees set out in the contract will be paid by RTÉ without any reductions and RTÉ shall not make any request or enquiry from you in relation to a reduction in the agreed fees"
Where was the stated pay cut and how much of a cut was it when the Renault money (that wasn't even paid for by Renault) is included?
That's the biggest question
You can't 'go for' an organisation until wrong doing emerges, like with RT. That's akin to internment without trial. By all means do if a case is found with evidence. A lot know what's going on on the ground.
Yes, I’ve never abused another poster. If you have evidence to the contrary present it or withdraw your remarks please.
Are you saying that you've never had posts removed due to abusing other posters?
If you have any evidence to the contrary I am happy to see it.
Posts like not paying your TV licence is illegal but RT did nothing wrong really sum the attitude up.
It shows that these individuals are very comfy financially, and that the amounts mentioned are small potatoes to them.
It shows moral bankruptcy.
There's a fella I worked with from a very well to do FG background. He's going bannanas about the Tubridy witch hunt on twitter. He just doesn't get it how the 'small' people are so upset about where their 170 euros go. It's a different world to the one he inhabits, the circles he moves in.
PR and optics. For the Marty situation. If he says 'sorry lads I shouldn't have kept the car' - and then gives it back it will blow over. But no doubt he will be getting a few things shouted at him from fans such as 'Marty do ya want a lift?' etc for a small while
Anyone in RTE who has not the t's crossed and i's dotted for even the most minor thing will now suffer reputational damage in the current climate unless they go into apology mode - fast. Marty giving back the car prevents him from getting constant abuse and questions.
Can Tommy Dooley line out for Clare this weekend in the backs ? I’m listening to him from morning Ireland defending Marty Morrissey.
And a point I made much earlier. Every organization will have wheeling and dealing. It's human nature, and no matter how many more rules and laws and guidelines they bring in, you will never eradicate people from being people.
So, would you now campaign for PAC to go for the GAA and its governance?
In the overall scheme of things, this issue with Marty is about as low down the "corruption" scale (whatever corruption means now with all the opinions and dilution) as can be.
The ordinary staff are livid right now- as are the journalists- I’d say there’s no scorn like a journalists scorn- especially a retired RTÉ journalist like Ciarán Mullooly
My dad was big into his GAA, he even played for his county, but the one thing he was not fond of was Marty.
I on the other hand am not as big a GAA fan as my dad was and I liked Marty.
One thing my dad and I would agree on that what Marty did was wrong and it doesn't matter how well he was liked or disliked, he can't be given a get out of jail free card. If anybody else in RTE is in trouble they can't get a bye.
Riddle me this, if Marty did nothing wrong why did he return the car, issue a statement and now is checking to see if he is tax compliant?
And their posts just show the sort of cavalier approach to honesty that pervades certain groups - a "nothing to see here" attitude that's going to be hard to shift.
The real ironic thing about the whole RTE situation for fear of 'bad optics/PR' they tried to hide the reality from the public.
If there was honesty from the start and no attempt to hide true salaries most of this would have blown over. But instead it an absolute PR disaster which will probably take RTE a generation to recover from.
Maybe from now on a dedicated independent government body will monitor RTE? Because RTE clearly could not regulate or oversee itself.
Anti- competitiveness - one big agent. Large salaries. Perks etc all done it seemed with lack of real oversight or accountability. Which are the real main issues there was no checks and balances.
As for Tubridy I would expect him to move to a non RTE station, either in Ireland or in the UK. I would be amazed if he toughed it out, as he seems to be in a dispute with RTE as it is.
There was/is a cohort on boards who showed contempt for Tubridy as it was. Because Tubridy was given the odd Free Candle or Jam - either by ordinary listeners or a small company. Now such complaints have been massively overshadowed. And seem even more petty.
Since his salary year on year was published and often a topic of discussion on social media and print media, there’s absolutely no way he can avoid the question; “Why didn’t you ask RTÉ to correct that?”
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