Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
Threadbans:
CGI_Livia_Soprano
Sorolla
Stevie2001
Rothco
realdanbreen
Paterson Jerins
Aldo006
HBC08
Clay Shaw
Pintman Paddy Losty
northknife
StevenToast
ButtersSuki
Bobson Dugnutt
I'll be very disappointed in the NUJ and the other trade unions in RTE if that's allowed to happen.
Have we got the the outrage about them not cleaning up after themselves in the canteen yet?
My understanding is this should be counted as a BIK because he wasn't gifted the car. He had to give it back after all.
You could say he should have been paying a monthly fee to Renault for the use of the car which they waved but he got a car for business which is BIK. Im no accountant but that would be my understanding. The mileage would reduce the BIK of course but he would still need to pay it and for the last 6 years.
Plus pay back the 25k car allowance which he should have been using to pay renault for the use of the car.
Then why do all media reports confirm him as "the staff member" or "the employee" who returned the car?
Why did Lynch say it was a staff member who had the car?
Work vehicles attract tax liabilities in two ways ordinarily.
Company car - vehicle provided as part of job role, this attract Benefit in Kind at varying rates dependant on the cars CO2 bracket and also it's Original list price, so even though you might be in a four year old car, you're still paying BIK based on its brand new valuation. Bad news for someone driving something that depreciates downs a cliff, like a Renault.
Some employers will also calculate additional deductions for personal mileage.
Car Allowance - employee provides their own car, it's subject to PAYE at the same rate as the worker ordinarily pays (definately 40% if you're in RTE would be my guess), and would then claim mileage at an agreed rate for journeys made as part of business only.
I’m guessing you don’t work for the ESB then.
I think the bowled Mart is an employee.
What is wrong with that fella. He sits back in his seat with a nod and a smirk and looks around as if he has just won the whole thing with his impressive answer.
This would be a show car, well that's the normal process because the presenter wouldn't want to put mileage etc on their own car.
I don't think BIK works because he isn't an employee.
I'd say it's free use of property and falls under gifts rather than BIK.
https://www.revenue.ie/en/gains-gifts-and-inheritance/valuation-date-value-certain-benefits/free-use-property-interest-free-loans.aspx
Standardly for a garage car etc they take it back each year and sell it on before the depreciation is too high. I very much doubt he got a car 5-6 years ago and is driving the same one. I expect the car was swapped every year so they could sell on, especially when you consider the high mileage he would do
Also the maintenance costs would be huge if it wasn't been swapped every year and we couldn't have old Marty having to pay those pesky service costs and pay for parts/etc
Is Marty paying for his tans?
I must apologise to Tubridy and his fans for suggesting he got the free car for 5 years....
I have no idea how I could have thought such a thing...
Mr Bakhurst said he knew about the existence of a barter account at RTÉ while he was deputy director general at the station. He might see this as honesty. But this proves my earlier point, he's one of them. He's their hire.
I am fully aware of that, I was including it for when the RTÉ/NKM/Tubs crew came on to correct me.
Apart from possible tax implications if Renault want to give him a car I don't see the big issue either.
True enough but there has to be a line. And if someone is dishonest with 'little' things they'll generally be dishonest with bigger things.
There should be a demarcation, you're salary is such and such, you're entitled to a car and so much expenses. You can accept gifts up to €200.
A free car for 5\6 years is a fair perk for any ordinary worker. It's worth maybe €20,000. Marty is another legend in his own head, not on the Tubridy scale but still a self important little fella. Loves the media. Someone like Dara Moloney just gets on with the job. It's the RTE staffers with a little cult of personality around them, they are easy enough to spot. Think Eilish Dillon from Met Eireann, does her job, no fuss. Joanna Donnelly screams look at me, selling her fertility clinic, her children's weather book, Purple Rain when Prince died etc. Very easy to identify the proud ones.
In fairness, he does have to lead the apocalypse over the horizon when the day comes, big responsibility.
I always imagined he'd be on a woolly mammoth for the occasion, but now I know he'll be in a Nissan Leaf. Doom drives electric.
The ones at the bottom of the chain
Any of the so called talent are currently screwing every penny out of tax payers with RTE seemingly helping them when possible. The code of conduct for staff seems to be totally ignored and its like a team of pigs at the trough
Nah, it's a perk afforded to very few and revenue take a different view.
He'll be commentating at the weekend RTE says.
I can't see that happening.
I worked for a commercial semi state too and I can't fathom the lack of controls at RTE.
Forbes was due to retire anyway so her resignation was only a PR stunt.
So Anto steals something worth a €50 from on Brown Thomas but it’s ok because Dee stole a handbag worth €4,0000? Nope, that’s not how it works.
I think people are letting their fondness for MM colour their judgement here in a big way,
Make no mistake about it, what MM did was wrong. Just because “it’s not as wrong as what Tubs did” doesn’t excuse it.
If we let MM off who else will we let off?
I used to work for a section which came under CHO 3 umbrella.
All managers used to travel to different offices in the same car and each one claimed mileage. One of those managers is now head of the HSE.
i have to ask...is there anyone in rte actually NOT on the take of some kind?
Is it f**k mild. It's the same. Underhanded dodgy deals to bump up wages so they keep wages up. Who gets a free car for 5 years on a loan? I bet it was on a loan so he didn't pay BIK. He was probably get his car allowance of 25k plus all the mileage over that time
If he offering to pay any of it back or just drop the car, release a few words in a statement and carry on as usual?
"it didn't cost the license payer a cent overall" well we probably paid his car allowance. Plus the tax he would of had to pay to buy his own car etc.
So yes it certainly did.
Surely there's a degree of difference though. If everything is "on the take" then one thing is as bad as another and it's hard to objectively view the true nature of things.
I think MM getting a loan of a car from Renault after doing speaking engagements from Renault is pretty small beans stuff, if it's even anything at all, next to hundreds and thousands of public money.
This 'error of judgement' bullsh1t is getting really annoying. It screams nothing to see here, please dont hate me. Pathetic.
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://w0.vanillicon.com/v2/04cbf1b64e8b0e561c543c5b1091ba30.svg)
