Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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He didn’t really fall from grace. RT was hardly everyones favourite TV person before this anyway.
Well according to the link I posted he wasn't great at negotiating all the time. Getting "effed" out of it by the DG for asking for a modest pay rise doesn't sound great
Also spending most of your working life being afraid to take holidays doesn't seem to me to have been a great situation to have found yourself in.
As I said, you could pick many exceptions, I just don't think Gaybo is it though.
So you admit youre Fianna Fáil?
Your attempt to critically analyse ButterSukis post and pose question marks over her clearly better mode of thinking, demonstrates an inherent resentment that comes from poisonously conservative rural people.
It appears, with your resentment of “D4” people, you would fit right in at Blackrock college. Privilege is another phrase they bandy around. To us it means meritocracy to them nepotism. Which is better, you decide!
So the lesson here is don't be so greedy
Why would anyone feel sorry for him? he wouldn't if it was someone else. He was greedy and lied to people. He had a position of power and instead of trying to do something good with it all he was interested in was stuffing his own pockets
It might make a few people sit up and change their actions
And the main point again, if it was someone else he would be on the radio now pulling them to pieces and telling everyone how great he is.
I've news for you.
Tubridy does not care. He does not care about reputational damage to RTE, did not care about everyone else having to take a pay cut while he lobbied for a payrise, did not care about RTE underwriting the deal, did not care about RTE publishing incorrect figures and did not care about throwing the RTE accounting department under the bus. He also does not care about appearing before the PAC.
Brass neck doesn't even cover it.
Japers I am about as far removed from Blackrock college and FF inner circles as you can get.... I'm a rural culchie (with no parish pump influence whatsoever!) and proud of it!
Although, if I put my cards openly on the table, I have to declare I have benefitted from certain associations with RTE on more than one occasion in my life....
Claddaghduff.
Based on the last few weeks alone, a talent agent or someone working for them would be the last person talent should ask for financial advice.
"You've got into financial difficulty? No worries, I will ask RTE for a raise, let me sort it, no-one will ever know".
Too much money and not knowing what to do with it is a lot of the problem with RTE stars.
My point stands, Gaybo was talented and without an agent, and well able to negotiate. On the otherhand, the agents appear to have a virtual monopoly on appointments of their clients to high profile presenting jobs in RTE these days. It almost seems like you can't get a presenting job in RTE unless you are part of NKM, or have to join NKM to get one.
Some of the older presenters have managed to avoid this, probably because they started in RTE before NKM came on the scene.
Gaybo wouldn't get in the doors of RTE if he was starting out now.
True.. IMHO, any sympathy for Tubridy or Forbes or any others steering/ aboard this gravy train is misplaced and totally undeserved.
That reminds me of an incident from an era which I would regard as the golden age or Irish radio (I had relatively recently moved from listening to 2fm to RTE radio one and there was some exceptional programming to listen to on there in the mid to late 90's!) back in the summer of 1995 when a certain Joe Duffy was filling in in Gay Byrne's morning slot for Gaybo's annual jaunt away to Donegal. Anyway Joe (as many know how fiercely he guards his own privacy and how prickly he gets on Liveline when anyone gets to close too home with any personal details about him!) was following up on media reports that Sharon Stone had been shopping in Galway after her picture had appeared on the front pages of a few of the national papers. So Joe rings up the proprieter of The Treasure Chest gift shop in Galway as Sharon had been snapped outside and inquires to know if Sharon had been there. "Yes" said the owner "and she was lovely". "And what did she buy?" sez the bould Joe. "Actually that is none of your business" said the owner. "How would you like if you came into my shop tomorrow Joe and then I went on the national airwaves telling everyone what you bought? We respect our customers privacy."
A cautionary tale, no doubt long forgotten by many in RTE, who were well able to dish it out and inquire into the lives of others in the most minute detail, but don't take too kindly when they same focus is targeted at themselves when the situation warrants.
Do you think everything revolves around cash here?
He has had an epic fall from grace. I think pretty much anyone can see this.
So he has plenty cash...big deal. I am not commenting on his having plenty of cash, other than to say that financially he is fine
I am speaking about his reputation and image and brand and how he is perceived in Ireland at present. That will be very tough on him, as it would anyone else in a similar position. We are all just humans, after all.
I cannot see him back at RTE. And pretty much what anyone will remember him for now on is this payments issue
Whilst there'll always be exceptions I don't think Gay is the best example...
Some artists and entertainers can indeed be fully across their field, selecting out successful business managers come entertainer hardly "blows a massive hole".
Why on earth would I bring Murphy into it?
You’re fooling no one. The masks has slipped several times on that post aside from the inane elongated stream of consciousness ramblings.
As for moving RTE outside Dublin and decentralising, as a Dubliner I agree completely so long as it doesn’t use taxpayers money.
The only people it will be hurting is the socialist Fianna Failers with Blackrock College connections. Which you blatantly are.
You forgot to put IMO at the beginning of your post.
It's not as if he didn't play his part in it though, and he can't be that naive to not have entertained the notion that he might be caught out.
Gas that he was pontificating to the plebs at the same time and telling us all how magnanimous he was in accepting a pay cut that wasn't all the same.
In fairness you cannot say he got the job by nepotism he seems to well qualified with plenty of experience from other industries outside public sector land. It's the "talent " etc that get in there through nepotism links. Once they get into RTE they never leave
What fall from grace? He's still paid by RTE, only for no work. There is no sign of him being sacked. And if polls are accurate, a lot of people hold him blameless and would have him back on air in a flash. Unless there's serious reform of RTE, Tubridy and NKM will be back at the heart of RTE a year from now.
Rte came up with The meaning of life series to help out gaybo. Then the other tool stepped into the role as it’s easy money.
Ok….#coldasice
I corrected my post as I knew someone would come back with that. Agents do not advise people how to invest or spend money, and as the article says, he was no different to others. I believe Joe Duffy also lost a lot, and Mike Murphy as well as prized NK asset Donnacha O'Callaghan.
Financially RT is absolutely fine..
but personally and emotionally it must be very tough.
Such a fall from grace, and so very publicly.
Your sympathy is misplaced and totally undeserved.
Intriguing.
Gay is not a great advert for not having an agent
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/gay-byrne-i-am-no-different-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-people-who-lost-money-1.4072183
The fact Gay Byrne had no agent and a ton off talentless eejits are represented by agents like NKM blows a massive hole in your argument. And before you say "Russel Murphy", agents would have nothing to do with that side of things.
Which is exactly why the public would do well in the coming weeks to cast a cold eye on what is coming out of de media here. Bit of a nest of vested interests, not exactly clear if they can be trusted to cover things like these barter dealings.
Honestly even he walked past me now I wouldn't share his information online. Also if I seen someone else posting it I wouldn't share the information. That's just me
I was just answering a question 🤷♀️
I have no wish to see Tubridy at all.
I would agree on a human level he is experiencing a lot of “punishment”, but this is one of life’s very difficult moments which we all experience and he would have enough investments to tide over financially until he inevitable gets on his feet in another guise where he might diversify.
Just watching Virgin One news there and they had a report from outside the RTE studios in Cork and showed a sign, Radio Telefis Eireann, I thought that looked incorrect and from Googling it is, RTE branding was supposed to be changed in 2009 and that was going to happen "very quickly". Sloppy, lazy RTE but not surprising given the way they operate. Musn't have had any money to change the sign.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/rte-name-change-fixes-spelling-error-that-lasted-40-years-1.702946
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