Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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While this has been entertaining and major structural change to rte or it's successor will likely follow now, I somehow doubt it will actually result in a major change in output or balance - as that's entirely culturally driven. Irelands media, over the past 20-30 years has adopted a form of curiosity free activist journalism that seems to take much of its cues from the US Democratic Party - no matter how out of place those are in Ireland. Welcome to the new RTE, much the same as the old RTE.
I don't think many would miss it as a brand tbh. The talent they have aren't gonna disappear into the ether. People want a public service broadcaster, not a jerry-rigged organisation that tends to just serve the highest paid within it.
I like to think of them more like retirement homes rather than the "bad bank"
While Paths to Freedom was good (better than Mrs Browne and Upwardly Mobile - how couldn't it be?) it's still based on the same worn-out class stereotypes that the middle to upper classes of Ireland want to laugh at and perpetuate
Paths to Freedom - Rats' poetry - YouTube
Well for radio you could cynically say that RTE Gold and Lyric are half used for that purpose. Disclaimer I listen to both so amn't trying to rag on them.
Sounds exactly like a former boss of mine.
There is a concept in some school districts in the US nicknamed "rubber rooms". In these rooms teachers who have are being investigated for various allegations, are given a desk in a room with other teachers in similar circumstances. They have to clock in and clock out and are paid in full but are given no work.
In fairness - im half taking the piss here
how about establishing something like a “bad bank” - this would be the new organisation - and it’s sole purpose would be a parking area for old contracts to run down.
here you can “park” talent until their contracts run out.
after some time the “bad bank” will cease to exist.
remaining would be a leaned down organisation
as I mentioned at the top of the post - this is not a 100% serious post
The comparison to the RUC doesn't work. Many RUC officers took early retirement and there was 50:50 recruitment in place for a decade but the organisation was still the same but with a different name and emblem. The PSNI's full legal name is 'Police Service of Northern Ireland (incorporating the Royal Ulster Constabulary)'.
And it only became national news here in Ireland after a foreign owned news source picked up the story from a local historian in the area where it was common knowledge among the locals.
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kudos on your post regarding what you would like to do to reform the national broadcaster.
however - such reforms (like all reforms) would take years to implement (phasing out and phasing in periods).
i think any changes that take place should take place gradually and the problem with gradual change is that it appears as if nothing is changing
Granny doesn’t have to pay her TV licence if she’s over 70! Which is interesting in itself as they people who do have to pay the licence are increasingly for the group who probably don’t watch or listen to RTE services.
They only sent gardai to the Tuam Baby site after Sky News began doing their own ground-penetrating radar works.
They're about as useful as tits on a bull when it comes to anything that might shine a light on corruption in establishment. Anyone can go into a station and report Jimmy next door for growing a cannabis plant, and they'd have a search warrant next day
Based mostly on what ButterSuki said earlier, I think they should split RTE into two, a public service part paid for solely from the licence fee, with no ads, no ad sales and a complete ban on agents. Permanent pensionable staff only. Focus only on public service, current affairs, Irish music, and other public service obligations.
The commercial side should be privatised. And they can do what they like, because the public will no longer be funding them. Dee Forbes, NKM and even Tubridy will be welcome in this new entity, because they won't have access to public funds.
Same way as they don’t do it now, I suppose.
Must be the mods who are doing this.
How would the government scare old people and gaslight the young if they didn't have RTE?
I agree the TDs really need to get their act together.
one suggestion I have to eliminate the grandstanding would be for the TDs to submit their questions in writing to the board a few days before the meeting takes place.
a trained actor then reads out the prepared questions.
the board can then decide (before the meeting) which questions they would like to answer
They would miss it for a period of time but then they would move on. Someone might, for example, be used to listening to Liveline with Joe Duffy on the radio but if it was cancelled they would miss it for a couple of months and no more. The reason they would miss it at all is not because it is a high quality radio programme but rather that it has become part of the background, a regular part of the day they can depend on. But they would eventually move on.
I do think there needs to be subsidies for Irish produced content but that doesn't require a traditional broadcaster as it might have done in the past.
But you do not know that.
NK and RT will appear before a committee and we will hopefully find out. Yes, RTE are incompetent and the board are mainly interested in looking after themselves, but with that knowledge on board, we do not yet know if NK didn't suggest it himself and set it up with his own connections. RTE still should not have signed off on it, but it does not mean NK walks away scot free.
I am most interested in GOL. Most often heard saying "I will have to look into that for you" the other day. She seems to be the tie-in for the sponsors and the agreements for cars and junkets. How many times did she bring her husband or other family members on expensive trips or day outs using the licence fees? She was solely responsible for the generation of commercial revenues across all of RTÉ’s departments, there is no way in hell that she did not know or remember all that she was asked.
that was brilliant from "Yes minister" about polling. The polling is done by media companies who have a vested interest in getting this story buried therefore it is in their interests to get a sympathetic poll regarding the RTE scandal. If the government comes down heavy on RTE and breaks it up it affects all journos and media people, so they want the status quo to remain as much as possible.
An acquaintance of mine did a year stint on the Citizens assembly, I was curious as to how he was selected for that, he said a polling agency rang him for a poll they were doing and they got talking then she asked him would he like to be on the citizen's assembly. So it looks like the citizens assembly is not random at all but hand picked to get people that are sympathetic to the topics that they will discuss usually liberal social issues. It also explains why defence and neutrality were not given to the citizen's assembly to discuss because the government knew that the citizens assembly is very left wing as thats how it was selected
Yep. Histrionics gone berserk
RTE won’t be closed down. A well funded public service broadcaster is a core component of a mature democracy like Ireland.
The hysterical screeching of angry middle-aged bores on Twitter to close it down is really amusing to read. The permanently outraged.
They can't jail us all.
We could stand on our doorstep tonight at 9pm and clap for 1 minute to show our solidarity with the ordinary rte worker. 😊
People absolutely would miss RTE if it was closed down. There are plenty good:great programmes on it.
I don't think we need a national broadcaster. We've just grown too used to it: The Late Late Show; the annual toy show; the Angelus; the 6.1 News., whinging callers on Liveline etc. It is not even that we like this stuff that much; but rather it is just too much of a shock to the system to change things. But not wanting change is not the same as needing something.
But if we did shut down RTE, a couple of months afterwards we would not be missing it. We'd have moved on to other things.
Did you ever wonder why RTE 1 and RTE 2 are available on Saorview in High definition while the other channels (Virgin and TG4) are not?
2RN (an RTÉ Subsidiary) administer the Saorview transponders. And they charge an exorbitant fee for HD. They charge themselves that fee for their HD carriage, but it's licence fee money so it doesn't really matter. it really should matter though.
I doubt it's been decided yet, but I'm not surprised that this is being war-gamed.
I suspect we will see a split company with a fully broadcast fee funded RTE News and Current Affairs, with a semi commercial RTE Public Service Arts and Entertainment company. This latter company will have to compete with other private broadcasters for funding. Regional radio and newspaper publishing are also after a slice of the broadcasting charge, so it will likely be both significantly higher and harder to avoid.
The absolute deadwood that is 2fm will be sold off, with the only value possibly in the equipment and the ancient roadcaster.
I wasn't actually watching but saw some clips and read about it here.
The TDs need to get their act together, imo. Decide beforehand what questions to ask, and who is asking what.
No grandstanding or trying to make a name for themselves. Keep the questions short and very much to the point.
Keep the histrionics for another time. They will definitely miss out on getting some answers if they are determined to be showing off and showing their reactions to every answer.
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