If Russia decides to destroy the nuclear power plant to gain advantage or create some kind of zone of exclusion, they will of course deny, deny, deny, and the Chinese, who show no signs of withdrawing their support, will demand restraint from the West while an investigation is launched....which one imagines would be extremely difficult. It's frightening because Russia is completely beyond the pale now, and we are seeing them use increasingly desperate tactics.
If they do it then they'll do it in a manner that allows them and their useful idiots to claim that it was actually Ukraine that did it for....reasons
Basically the dam playbook all over again. Tucker Carlson will blame the UAF. Western far-lefties will blame the CIA.
Basically everyone will rush to confirm their priors.
China trying to demand restraint if radioactive fallout is being spread across NATO member states won't have any impact on what NATO does to putin's forces for causing a nuclear incident in Ukraine and it has been repeatedly spelled out by NATO that putin's forces would face severe consequences if this happened. If putin got away with using radiation as a weapon once there is a load of ex soviet nuclear material where he could repeat the same tactic again and again and again so NATO has to respond once this line is crossed.
China also shares a border with russia and I can't see how they would be happy to look for leniency for putin once he crosses the red line of actually deliberately causing an incident that leads to nuclear fall out.
The nuclear fall out won't just stop at the border with Ukraine and he will also have to face causing the deaths of large numbers of russians in areas where moskow may already be unpopular.
NATO need a black/white event at the plant to happen to trigger a big response, the Russians are unlikely to play ball with that. I would guess the Russians will instead "play games" with the plant, e.g. moving staff away from it, or setting off a small explosive close to the plant but not enough to threaten a nuclear release.
Of course they have no problem murdering Ukrainians and destroying Ukraine and causing a nuclear accident there, it's just that tactically and strategically I don't think it suits them for now. Keyword: for now. I remember last year there was a lot of talk of the dams being rigged by the Russians. They waited very patiently on that one.
"Setting off a small explosive close to the plant but not enough to threaten a nuclear release" -- that worked well with the Nova Kakhovka dam. Trust the Russians to f*ck things up.
Even if NATO don't act in such circumstances, I'd be stunned if Biden doesn't unleash the USAF.
At the very least, it would drag the the Baltics into the conflict
Ukraine has literally been asking for more help since the opening week of the war. Zelenskyy's message to the world on week 1 was, "Please - close the skies."
"Appear strong when you are weak and weak when you are strong."
In the opening week of the war, few predicted that Ukraine would not only not be overrun by Russia, but that they would hold the vast majority of their territory, have reduced Russia to a defensive posture, and be putting together counter-offensive operations. Ukraine has constantly downplayed its true combat effectiveness while always pressing for more weapons via public pronouncements, usually by Zelenskyy. He's been on what seems like a perpetual junket to keep aid coming. It's not that Ukraine's allies won't have a proper idea of what Ukraine is actually getting, but it helps a lot with allies' public support for giving the aid to always say that Ukraine doesn't have enough.
This isn't to say that Ukraine couldn't really use those F-16s, for example, it's only to say that you're never going to get a true picture of the state of things via public pronouncement like that. In war, cards will be held close to the chest and deception is crucial. Well, that's what the canny participants will do. Ukraine haven't been bad at it so far.
Look at what Russia has built to withstand what they think Ukraine could throw at them, and we probably get a truer picture of their capability as things stand.
Not necessarily. What I gathered from that Guardian article was the potential for a smaller and more containable radioactive event was at risk here. If the Russians blow cooling ponds, it seems the aftermath might just be insignificant enough in the grand scheme of it all to see them get away with it.
All guess work and nothing may happen but if they do decide to blow the plant, I can imagine they'll only do so in a way that allows them to keep their head above water.
More proof if needed to show the Russian mindset, a truly sick and twisted nation.
This and the abduction and brainwashing of kids chills the spine and boils the blood.
Details on another victim of this week's Russian terror attack, probably over the weekend to be replaced a new attack....
On a lighter not
I give up, there's no other way to describe it
Waaaagh
Well, here he is: what a prat.
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Noticed this this morning trying to check the latest news from Ukraine, like many people I don't have a twitter account (no intention of getting one either). Big loss for the moment.
Just remember this folks when posting "tweets" or whatever you call them.
Article 5 needs to be triggered and made clear before nps is blown probably in progress
This is a backdoor nuke on Europe and end Ukraine offense, force a stalemate cleanup time will allow Russia rebuild its forces that was their insurance grab.
Russia prevented a storming late last year so its there jewel in the crown
I believe putin has ordered or planned like the dam nobody blinked think he can get away with it we are screwed if we back down
Bit of a paradox there.
It would end Ukrainian offence and Russian defence. Everybody would be forced to vacate the area for the foreseeable future. If Russia wanted to attack again, they'd have to do it in lead-lined suits.
I'm not saying Russia definitely wouldn't blow the PP, but it wouldn't be a move to rebuild for another attack. It would just be the ultimate spiteful stunt before walking out the door.
Twitter links require an account now. I doubt I'm the only one who doesn't have an account. Could people post the text instead of just dumping a Twitter link?
Another gowl embarrassing our nation again.
Mr Bowes, described as a "scholar specialising in small arms and munitions", spoke by video link yesterday.
What is his background to claim this?
The best thing would be that people who wish to post tweets do so by pasting the link into the "Insert Media" button at the bottom of the screen (red arrow pointing to it below) when you're typing a message. The boards software embeds the link so that anyone will be able to read it from within boards.
This will then look like this:
So the Russian crowd Rybar are reporting that there is a massive attack by Ukrainians on Kremina. I saw someone on YouTube mention it. Doesn't seem to be much chatter on twitter yet so not sure how much truth there is to it.
I only see two options regardless of qualifications etc
Career utter gee bag twat that would do anything to get ahead
Or quite deluded mentally unstable person
Actually there is a third option...some combo of the above.
Presumably they thought that it sounded better for the UN than "Sometime RT correspondent and full-time twitter troll". He even made sure to wear his glasses to look extra scholarly.
I see they had Max Blumenthal of GrayZone out batting for them yesterday at the UN. So they're sending out all of their English language speaking useful idiots.
Who knows - we might even see everyone's favourite two independent MEPs up soon - or maybe that'd be too much even for them
Big cat sighted
If they still embed correctly that's ideal.
Those 1420 videos are always depressing but that one was especially so. Not sure which was worse, the guy at the very beginning telling him to drop out of college to go fight in Ukraine or the woman at the end saying that they wanted all of her 3 sons to be mobilised (ethnic minority of course).
1 post in the last 10 hours. Some difference between that and exactly 1 week ago!
Some good news
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