Oooh. Which of Grayzone, Seymour Hersch or Jacobin will pop up with this story next I wonder?
More gear on the way
I don't know, and if someone was to tell me, I would not have believed them. but I watched it live on National news on Serbian TV myself. The amount of snide giggling from the commentators was unreal. So Putin ( and his propaganda factory) have long tentacles. And while telling this with straight ( albeit smiling) faces, completely ignoring the 7 Russian aircraft and the 15 deaths that had occurred during this scam, and the widespread panic that had occurred. With Putin being amongst the most panicked it seems.
Seriously, it's been a couple of days and the best tankie explanation is "Wagner was able to move to Belarus, 100km from Kyiv"? The Kremlin propaganda machine must be down for summer maintenance.
What was stopping them from relocating before this debacle?
Serbians gonna Serb.
MAGA nuts are all over Twitter with this to bash Biden as well as the text recovered from the famous Hunter laptop where he extorted 5 m from China
I thought Prigozhin is involved in the bot factories? If so then pumping out pro tv president Putin propaganda wouldn't make sense.
I think given the fact the Western intelligence agencies may have been blindsighted by this and, as you say, were alarmed at the prospect of someone like Prigozhin at the helm, this will perhaps focus minds in the west to try and line someone up who they deem acceptable to replace Putin. Finding someone like that will be tricky. Also implementing it will be tough given the FSB will be on heightened alert for such a possibility now. You maybe right about there not being a high ranking spy in the Russian MOD,but some of information(especially regarding the plan for Kyiv) the Americans had at their disposal seemed too precise to be more widely known amongst the rank and file soldiers. It was risky for the Americans to reveal it,but they probably calculated it had to be done in the hope Putin might have doubts about going ahead, but that's not his way.
Didn’t it come out in the leaks a few weeks ago that they have infiltrated Putins top command and that’s how they knew Russia where about to invade when everyone else said they wouldn’t?
Prigizon also said in his rant about how the Kremlin’s reasons for the invasion were lies.
No way he would be allowed say that if it was staged.
Wonder what Vlad has in store
Keep in mind that the Serbian regime are Putin lovers and still despise NATO over the events of 1999. I'm not sure we should be be paying much attention to the musings of a bunch of right wing nationalists and semi fascists.
"Steven Seagal has personally asked me to direct and co-star in his next film."
Are the Serbs really that stupid? Is it possible?
Considering the above of Serbian TV.
What if Putin was shaking down the US for money, lined up on the Belarusian border. The US called phuck it enough of this crap and prepared Ukraine for invasion.
Wouldn't be the above give knowledge of invasion?
Putin, Russia, soldiers still 100% responsible and should be held accountable with respective agency took from them.
Putin may have just realised what a great story the US paying Prig is
They are pro-Putin propagandists. They love his regime and hate NATO....they're still bitter and seething with resentment about being bombed by them in 1999.
Interesting times ahead this evening it looks like
Putin speaking now
They have a "greater Serbia" mentally to match Putin's revanchism. Victor Orban is another one.
A Russian Foreign affairs scholar published this article over the weekend...
He argues that Russia will have to launch a nuclear strike against europe.
I read the article and its pretty crazy reading, and whats more scary is the comments from many Russians on it.
Many of them actually believe that they can launch nuclear weapons at Europe with little to no consequences because the USA would be too scared to retaliate.
If anyone needs to have a look at some of the thinking of many Russians to this war they should have a look at these comments, they really think that they are the good guys and the west is just out to destroy Russia.
You will need to translate from Russian to English...
Putin looks scared
Putin must have Prig in a jail cell or in the ground, no way he would change tune with the risk of them coming back
that speech summed up
prigozgin had his chance this weekend he is at putins mercy now
Oof
They lost a lot more men and equipment than they let on, surely
Rank and file must be fuming about the deal Prigo made
In Russia fighting means those above you get rich.
"Thanks to the Wagner soldiers who turned around to avoid bloodshed".
Ehhh? Not before they shot down 6 irreplaceable helicopters and radar plane. Killing several pilots in the process.
Only in Russia. Pack of absolute clowns.
*Edited*
Honestly though most of it was a nothingburger.
He did say the "organisers" would be dealt with but didnt name Prigozhin. So they could still scapegoat someone else for show. Or it could just all be words to appear tough and hopes the general public will simply swallow it and forget, they have swallowed some absolute nonsense in stride up until now.
On the flipside though it's really difficult to imagine Putin letting this betrayal slide.
Prigo will hardly go down quietly if he's about to be brought to task either. But then he separated himself from his army for some reason. Very hard to know. Im confusing myself even as a write.
Having read the full transcript of the speech I'd tend to agree and will update my previous comment (apologies)
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