Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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If RTE don't put him back on the air, RTE will more than likely have to pay up whatever is left on his contract.
In the old days maybe but now you can self publish and publicise on amazon, twitter, youtube, podcast platforms.
Joe gets around 300,000 listeners!
That's depressing.
Was this a clue from the „pointing „ thread?
https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120754018/#Comment_120754018
Still takes marketing.
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Not necessarily. The board could sack him. ASA senior presenter he colluded to keep his real wages from being disclosed to the board and to the public a condition RTE had to adhere to.
If similar happened in a private company all those involved wound be sacked and they wound be left with trying to sue for unfair dismissal.
It really is some fall from grace . Easily RTE and Ireland’s most known and recognizable media personality. Be a bit weird him just gone in a flash, whether one rates him or not; and I rate him very low. I’m sure most do
People have short memories.
Wemember Jonathan Woss and Wussell Bwand and the BEEEEB!!!
What could they sack him for? Seriously.
RTE failed to publish his wage properly. It was RTE who was responsible for that. That was on them, not Tubs. Legally Tubs was under no obligation to reveal his full wage nor to correct RTE's mistake.
Like you said "a condition RTE had to adhere to."
Have you proof he colluded with them to keep it quiet?
He's received over €8m from just RTE in declared fees alone over the last 20 years. While wealthy people undoubtedly have expensive lifestyles I'm sure he's put a good chunk of that away. He'll be alright.
I've long thought that when it comes to paying the "stars" fees, that RTE really weren't competing with other Irish stations, the BBC or anyone else but they were essentially competing with themselves. They paid these people so much over so long that they were more than comfortable, enough that they didn't need the work anymore. The insane money was the carrot to get them to continue coming in.
Was Pat Kenny, not an RTE employee? someone I consider well past his sell-by date at this stage. I have the radio on all the time from 10 am unless I'm at work, it's Today with Clair Byrne and I do listen to it, switch between Louise Duffy and Andrea Gilligan on Newstalk, then its Sean Moncriffe, really enjoy Moncriffe, RTE radio 1 is very good in the evening, Arena, John Creddon, The county measure was a gen program, there are things that RTE radio do very well.
Customers don’t invoice you for services though. They pay you.
If another business is invoicing you, they must be providing you with goods or services. Otherwise we ARE into fraud territory.
And if a public body chooses an external business to provide a service, they are supposed to go through procurement processes to ensure value for money.
From the figures quoted, it seems this agency charged close to a 50% fee on the payments. Maybe there are other agencies who would have made payments to Tubridy for a 20% or 30% fee?
Seems to be a totally toxic environment. Between Sharon Ni Bheolains tantrums blaithnaid no chofaidh trotting in and out of the WRC, Catriona Perry fleeing back to the states with small children in tow, and David McCullagh struggling to contain his towering rage last Friday evening I’d rather be below in Dunnes.
If they can't sack him and if they're not letting him back on air then they'll still have to pay him out until the end of his current contract.
Revenue are the ones who will decide if what he did was illegal. I'm not sure it is, if he declared all monies to them. As said above, there will be an anti-scandal clause, we'll have to wait and see if this covers it.
They could come to an amicable solution, pay him off some of whats due and tell him to go off and do what he wants. Time will tell.
They wouldnt be sacking him. He is not an employee.
He is contracted to provide a service to RTE and can no longer provide that service as his conduct had damaged his standing to discuss current affairs.
Depending on how the contract is worded of course. A properly run company would have protected itself but RTE being the corrupt (as per PAC) gombeens that they are probably not.
Kenny wanted his contract renewed but it wasn't going to happen as he had reached retirement age.
He colluded to misinform the Board of Directors what his real wages were. The BOD were responsible for publishing the earning of the top ten earners in RTE.
Not only that he colluded as well to hide the fact he did not take a pay cut three years ago.
If I worked for a company and part of the condition my employment was my total earnings were supposed to be disclosed to the BOD and I and the CEO of the company did a deal to prevent the BOD from knowing my full earnings and if I also hid the fact that I did not take a pay cut when other did what do you think would happen.
I'd be amazed if the money wasn't accounted for properly in Tub's accounts. It's not like it was a cash payment that he could hide under the table.
I'm curious how anyone thinks that if there's an anti-scandal clause, Tubs can be sacked because of it. That's laughable. It's RTE who caused the scandal, not Tubs.
But I will agree that if RTE don't let Tubs go back on the air, then they'll have to pay up.
If he was to do a podcast, it would need a sponsor as how else would it make him money especially as it will have very low listenership.
What's Dee Forbes' angle in all this? Did she really thing RT was that essential to RTE? Seems strange.
As per @BattleCorp it seems unlikely that RTE could terminate his contract due to a scandal of their making.
You've zero proof that he colluded with anyone regarding misinformation related to his wages.
Aside from Revenue, Tubs is under no obligation to tell anyone his wage, including the RTE board. The RTE board should know, but that's another matter. The Board wouldn't be asking Tubs how much he is earning, they'd ask their internal people how much they were paying Tubs so that they could publish the earnings of their top ten earners.
It's a tricky one alright - If RTE don't allow Ryan back on the radio, who's going to rock up with the contract and waggle in their face...Noel Kelly?
Tubs has a contract. If he holds up his end, then it's up to RTE to hold up their end. If RTE don't hold up their end, they are in breach of contract and Tubs would probably win in court if he chose to go down that route.
Point of order Mr chairman, not having his contract renewed because he reached retirement age is not the same as saying his contract wasn't renewed because he didn't have a fan base, he was very popular.
If he goes to court all the grubby details will come out. Something RT and NK does not want to happen.
Where are you getting all this collusion proof?
There are 3 parties complicit in the scandal - RT, RTE, Noel Kelly. They will all cancel each other out or else go to court. They'll all just agree to drop the contract angle imo and Ryan will slink off with his millions
Looks like the issues weren’t just restricted to Tubridy
What grubby details? That RTE published the wrong figures?
What else do you think will come out?
Again, he is a party to this arrangement. Either he in tandem with his agent or his agent acting on his behalf were the other party involved. He is firmly in the firing line.
To think otherwise is naive.
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