You could be right, he might have realised the military weren't breaking his way as the day progressed. Sure they had an unimpeded advance towards Moscow, but Wagner would have likely faced stiff resistance once they got there. Also by all accounts it seems Wagner would have been unable to capture any of the political or military leadership.
Interesting
The fact that there are no Chechan fighters leaving Moscow suggests Putin knows whatever is happening, isint over yet or that this was just round 1. As long as Moscow sits in defense mode, Putin can't rest easy
So is the arrest warrant cancelled ?
Strange for such a quick deal to be made after treason.
Is this the signs of people realiaing the fallibility of Putin and aren't afraid to stand up
I should think they'd be there for a bit. Putin will be worried about his grip on power and be aiming to look strong in the days to come. One aspect of that will be boots in the capital. I'm not sure that Putin will be entirely comfortable that they are Chechen boots, though, and that he's essentially using one warlord to feel safe from another.
Think it's more than that. Warlords rule Russia now, not Putin.
I've consulted "the youth" and I believe you are correct.
It's highly likely Wagner faced little to no resistance on their way to Moscow. Small town police and national guards aren't going to resist them but they would have more than likely been obliterated by the Russian airforce on the routes into Moscow.
This was their one chance and when the reality stared them in the face (or the drugs wore off) they seen sense and stuck it in reverse.
Its does seem he polished off a bottle of Smirnoff last night and got a little brave, sobered up on the way to Moscow and quickly backtracked 🤣
Wagner made territorial gains today not seen since the bkitzkrieg of 1940 . There must be thousands of Russian troops wondering whether to stay inching forward in Ukraine at terrible loss or sweep on unimpeded to Moscow.
Finally the bunch of pussies might actually grow a pair and start a revolution.
Anyone recognise this guy? happened in Belarus this evening..
Prigozhin fell for the banana in the tail pipe, once in Belarus he'll fall from his basement window, 10 stories to his death, and land on a bullet that gets lodged in the back of his head.
Disappointing Russian people will see the best chance in 20 years of a coup against Putin failed after a day.
Disheartening.
Not clear to me what has been going on in russia but the move to Belarus by Pregozhin is unlikely to see him simply agree to go into house arrest there in my opinion. Maybe the numbers of supporters he was hoping for did not appear but he still leads a force of experienced killers with some serious military equipment. I think it's much more likely that he is now going to be given a role securing Belarus as part of the russian federation and gets to keep his army there as without it putin or whoever is in control in the kremlin will just have him killed. Hopefully the shake up from this also sees moskovytes pull back from Ukraine to focus on internal security or opens a few cracks in their occupying forces sufficient for the Ukrainians to drive them out more quickly. Ukraine is still reporting making progress in their counteroffensive.
No evidence the airforce would have attacked them significantly. Wagner appear to have a lot of sympathy from ordinary soldiers amd civilians.
Stopping at the gates of Moscow may be a fatal mistake for Wagner, as now they will be eliminated one by one. Putin never forgives or forgets.
Prigozhin will be lucky to survive another few months.
The Chechens and various other factions are waiting for the complete annihilation of the Russian army in Ukraine before launching a similar coup. Today showed how weak and defencelesss Putin is. Civil war in Russia is only a matter of time, and Wagner missed their best chance to win it.
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Nice stash in his desk
Wonder is a risk of him setting up a wagner group mk2 and attacking Ukraine from the west.
Why would Lukashenko agree with that though? Or the Belarusian army? Inviting in Prigozhin and Wagner when they’ve seen what’s gone down?? Doesn’t make sense unless Prig has fully surrendered. Why would Shoigu etc resign in this case too? Nothing really adds up. Maybe there’s some wider play going on, with Putin being replaced??
I can't help but feel in this case that it's better the devil you know.
Prigozhin is another scumbag who I don't think anyone should want in power. He's even more unhinged than Putin.
None I'd say.
As many have already said throughout the day, something just feels off about all these events.
Lets look at it like this, before yesterday kicked off Putin and Shiogu were having real problems with Prigozhin and Wagner, criticising everything and causing problems, then refusing to back down on demands that wagner soldiers sign contracts with the MOD.
All of this then kicked off last night, Prigozhin and Wagner were getting little resistance on there march to Moscow.
Then all of a sudden its over Prigozhin agrees to go to Belarus, Wagner soldiers will now be made sign contracrs with the MOD. I think Prigozhin has been played.
Seems that more than a few of his Wagnerites are dissatisfied in the extreme about their Boss's change of heart, and are showing it. With good cause too it seems. Putin's security / FSB are searching all over the place for them, identifying and tracking them down, which does not bode well for them. Shades of Erdogan's purge after the attempted coup in Turkey, where thousands were rounded up and imprisoned, in purges that are still ongoing to this day. Indirectly, this will be of benefit to Ukraine though, as it will rattle Putin's army and establishment.
Looks like his passport was out of date!
Lukashenko already has invited in russian troops. Also seen reports he is on friendly terms with Progozhin. Maybe Luka simply sees wagner as being a more effective deterrent to anyone who would want to challenge his position as head of state in Belarus and Progozhin is happy to get a secure position as his well paid enforcer rather than take his chances against a much bigger military force in moskow. Just speculating and agree that with the information currently available things don't really add up.
He is probably a dead man walking now, it's not credible that Putin would let someone off the hook for a coup. Starting a coup is going all in, folding is not an option.
elite Chechen troops
Any chance we could retire descriptions like this. Over the course of this war I don't think the Chechens have shown that they have any elite troops. Some of their supposedly best troops were killed by Bayraktar drone strikes in the suburbs of Kyiv in the very first week of the war.
Since then all they have done is:
Is there any evidence of them actually being good fighters on the front lines anywhere? I think they may have been involved in the siege of Mariupol but I cannot recall them being involved in anything else.
I think their reputation comes from their predecessors who humbled the Russians in the first Chechen war 30 years ago. This current crop have been dining out on that reputation but have done nothing to deserve it.
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