Times radio saying that there had been reports that Ukrainian intelligence had been in contact with Wagner in recent weeks….
I'd find this v hard to believe i.e. having got near to Moscow the Wagner group decide to make peace
Looks like the fun is over
Sky reporting the same
Perhaps trying to make a deal for immunity from being handed over to the Hague,but what if Prigozhin sells him out.?I would love to hear an interview with the Russian ambassador to Ireland this evening to get his thoughts on all of this!
The difference may be that Prigozhin will not have the same capabilities that Putin had back in Feb 22. Economically, he's far from as healthy as he was back then, militarily his mobilization's are not as successful either, when you have to get your recruits from prisons, you have problems, and he has problems replacing destroyed tanks, planes, munitions etc. If he ( Prigozhin ) does take power, for sure it will not bode well for Ukraine, but he may well decide to pull back, regroup and rebuild, and then attack again when he's good and ready. And then it will depend on what Ukraine can achieve in that time of reprieve. For sure, they will be far better than they were in Feb '22. Question is will it be enough to deter Prigozhin?
yeah stop moving 'around russia,' head straight for moscow. Good plan
Oh I'd wager the fun is just starting.
Assuming for a second this is accurate what kind of deal has been made to stop Wagner marching on Moscow?
And he's a Russian, so what deal is he going to agree to that he doesn't end up breaking?
Its on RT as well.
Called it (sort of) earlier, but was more expecting it from people who believe their conspiricy theorists, sorry presenters.
Does it make sense that Prigozhin would interrupt a war in Ukraine to settle a personal beef only to go back to the war again after Ukraine has a reprieve?
Is he a true believer in the might of Russia, or in it for the money?
@Rawr "But if that happens, where will Putin be? Dead? Making a stand in a bunker somewhere, or pulling a Gaddafi and setting up a new capital somewhere else?"
He was last seen disguised as a lumberjack, trying to cross a marsh near the Chinese border. Wolves attacked him and ate his lunch...will keep you informed...
Prigozhin says it's over- For Now
"They were going to dismantle PMC Wagner. We came out on 23 June to the March of Justice. In a day, we walked to nearly 200km away from Moscow. In this time, we did not spill a single drop of blood of our fighters. Now, the moment has come when blood may spill. That’s why, understanding the responsibility for spilling Russian blood on one of the sides, we are turning back our convoys and going back to field camps according to the plan."
I think the situation today has been far more sober than much of the Twitter commentary as usual. It looks like there was a bit of a challenge to Russia's military leadershipnbut that's about it.
Whatever it was appears finished now.
Well I'm not speaking to my family, is there anything else going on?
The amount of echoey calls on SKY News is too damn high.
ftfy:
You know as little as everyone else here.
I'm not sure why he'd turn back. Its very hard to believe he'll walk this one off after Putin came out against him publicly promising retribution.
All very odd.
maybe less?
Damm… well that is very underwhelming
I see the minimalists have arrived.
"Bit of a challenge"?
It's unprecedented. He made it from Rostov to within 200km of Moscow in 24 hours. The Russian military was in absolute chaos. The Russian leadership (and elite) fled Moscow. He's shown how fragile the whole apparatus is over there.
Dunno what happens next, but they just negotiated with "the terrorist" to stop, because they couldn't stop him. There's going to have be a huge military purge in Russia after this and Putin has never looked this weak.
This is gonna be a disappointing end to the day if this is the end of it
The FSB and Armed forces completely abandoned Putin today. There's no way he will continue. He has cut a deal.
What's this?
Well find me someone in here who knows more than nothing right now, in reality. We're all at the mercy of social media and other media. It's a regurgitation of other people's work.
Yeah, you would have to wonder what was he promised to call a halt to this . Also he seems to be clever enough to know no deal with Putin could be trusted anyway. I find it hard to believe they will all just shake hands and forget about everything that has just happened.
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Rumours of Putin’s downfall have been greatly exaggerated, yet again.
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