No, you leave them at it then take advantage of the outcome.
The average solider idnt going to follow them into war againdt Wagner though. They aren't going to die for general's who have been sending them to Ukraine like lambs to the slaughter. They will all defect to Wagner.
Is this some sort of defence mechanism to protect yourself from a difference of opinion?
You always say everything Putin says is a lie.
You also think every Putin appearance is actually a fake double.
So why believe it this time?
As everyone always says here: if the Russians are saying it, it must be untrue....
This whole thing is a bit like Titan story last week: everyone and their granny has a theory. The BBC guy was merely saying: it's a bit early to talk about civil war, things are very murky still
Then Putin would be admitting defeat.
Prigozhin must have a plan in place with people within the Russian Military.
This could actually be a real coup from within to replace the highest level.
There is no way Moscow are willingly letting Wagner just roll up to the city.
It feels like the military are refusing orders from the top.
I see Lizzy is back and Toby to warn us of dire consequences etc. Lizzy banned for this sort of stuff iirc.
An influx of 20 to 40 million Russian refugees as well in to Europe.
🤣🤣Hilarious!!
The thing that can come from all this is that the internal struggle dilutes their ability, they are far too stretched and then Ukraine can counter far more effectively as there is turmoil and figuring out who has the orders to give what exactly.
From then, Ukraine has taken everything back bar Crimea. Crimea is given an independent state (Like Hong Kong) and everything else ends.
Wow lots of new posters popping up saying the exact same thing.
Never seen that on Boards before.
Russia had the world fooled for years, when in fact all that was needed to take it over was some clapped out old trucks and a few guys with guns. Russia is now there for the taking, China, America, Europe, all could conquer it in a day.
Fuk that apologist bullsht.
Looking at the Russian press and they are far from relaxed. They are using "rebellion" and "armed uprising" in all their headlines.
Who would want that psycho with his finger on the button
Arguably the worst scenario is that Putin simply gives Prigozhin the job of being in charge of the Russian army and Putin remains in place. The Russian army would be fsr stronger with him as leader, and far more brutal for the Ukrainians. I would really hope the Ukrainians are making the most of this and going g for an all out push on multiple fronts now.
If Putin and Prigozhin come to quick resolution then it will be right back into Ukraine with a lot more determination and brutality.
Odd saying that when helicopters are shot out of the sky.
The BBC has a much more sober take on the whole thing. Says mood in Moscow is very relaxed, points out that Prigozhin is in a meeting with the deputy defence minister to try and sort this out, and that he's still wary of attacking Putin directly. Things are tense but he reckons talk of a civil war is very premature. I guess next 1-2 days will reveal a lot, could go any way
First line of defensives broken through by Wagner
Nobody knows but one things for sure a coup or civil war in a nuclear armed nation isn't something to be getting excited over.
Stop FFS.
Nuclear war against who?
There is no way this is backed by the west.
So there's a chance of Crimea party this summer?
No reason to nuke the west , but also logically, sending a nuke to the west still doesn't stop what's happening IN russia
This is entirely a homegrown crisis. It is a direct consequence of launching a brutal and unjustifiable war on a neighbouring sovereign country. What we're seeing is what many more thoughtful analyses I've read have predicted - the war is coming back to Russia.
It doesn't change the nuclear threat in my view, as you obviously can't use nuclear weapons against your enemies when your enemies are amongst you.
Pretty sure the west are as surprised as Putin and wouldn't back this
And Prigozhin would definitely not be a choice the west would pick, remember this is sledgehammer guy whos Wagner group has caused atrocities all around the world, in this war his guys have been the most brutal with torture, and he could be much worse than Putin
So no the Russians probably wont take this lightly
They're quiet every day.
I'm loving this story unfold. Just need to hear more orcs and putrid sympathisers crying for their fatherland. I hope this is the start of russia's implosion. The Finns can take back land they lost in their war, the Poles can have Kalingrad, the Chinese can take back their lands in exchange for giving up on Taiwan. I'm seeing opportunity everywhere as russia is dismemberred!
Russia was pleaded to and warned repeatedly not to invade as it would be a risky venture and come with a cost.
Russia is funked thanks to the elite who supported the lock up of opp and killing journalists
Dangerous times for the world because of nukes in vodka swilling maniacs
Embassy's leaving will be the next level putin is a dead man walking.
350km away from Moscow now.
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