Absolutely. It's an open forum. I just haven't seen any "it's got to be the CIA" style posting in a while.
Wagner should have brought more manpads to make this last longer
Lads, Putin is way ahead of everyone. He's not in Moscow and left there several days ago to his hideaway in the backarse of nowhere. He's absolutely not in St Petersburg.
If Wagner have turned on him, he'll know.
Who or what will Clare Daly blame? NATO? The USA? Austerity? Water charges? The Nuns?
You won't. All the trolls, putinbots and general sh1t stirrers will be turning off the internet for the weekend and steering clear of Boards.
Kaliningrad could turn into a Taiwan Old-Regime type of situation.
Very, very unlikely. It is unprecedented stuff, but people should temper their expectations. Putin is likely just moving to another location, and is very much in control of the core circle, there's little threat to his leadership here, he has the national military, and all the apparatus's and media and general public. After the initial panic I am sure they will quash the momentum of this in the next few days, if not next 24 hours.
Of course, I would be more than happy to be wrong, e.g. I'm seeing rumours that Russian army units in Lipetsk have joined Wagner, but who knows, very hard to verify anything.
Everyone in Ukraine today. 😂
I was posting last night ! I am now officially requesting NightMaster privileges.
In fairness too, the war in Ukraine has been an effective stalemate for the last six months or so : intense fighting around Bakhmut, but not much happening politically or diplomatically. There hasn't been a huge amount of news to discuss on a daily basis.
It won't. We're getting pretty ahead of ourselves, here. Even if it were a possibility, Putin's not going to put himself within that kind of geographical proximity to his NATO enemies. He'd be petrified of CIA assets coming to kill him, and only needing to traverse a small amount of territory to do it.
Apparently, allegedly, pinch of salt, but a Wagner column of several hundred vehicles has reached Lipetsk, which is 6 hours drive from Moscow
Just like in Belgorod..
I don't believe the general public support the government by choice.
I won't be surprised if he bolts for somewhere the regime in Myanmar.
Overall, this is good news for Ukraine. Anything that might mean a change of regime (or serious weakening of it) would undoubtedly speed up the end of the war. I think there was a growing realisation in Russia that the war was already lost and that Ukraine could not be defeated.
Presumably because they haven't been instructed on what the message is yet.
Massive pinch of salt again, but if true, this is some warped Spartacus ****
Yep they're on the way alright.
If true… that’s fully mental, that would mean total chaos
What ever the outcome of this Coup, the Russian army and Wagner will never be the same. It will be in a much worse state (if that was even possible)
Ukraine must be licking their lips
from the Guardian:
Flights from Moscow have reportedly sold out as the Wagner mercenary group approach.
Der Spiegel has reported that tickets for direct connections from Moscow to Tbilisi, Astana and Istanbul are no longer available.
Google Maps is showing road closures on the M4 south of Moscow, the route the Wagner rebels are taking.
Rybar claiming Wagner are now at Yelets (still in Lipetsk oblast):
https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1672548069584371712?s=20
Clearly the situation would still be a diplomatic and military mess even if Putin's regime is toppled, but the chances of the war with Ukraine ending soon would be much, much higher. We always wondered if some dramatic event might happen that could bring about a quick end to the war.
Chechnya, Georgia, republics in general are all up for grabs if this keeps going. I've said it before but is not outside the realm of possibility of China taking control of lands they still claim to "protect the Chinese population" there.
I'd hate to be a Russian soldier in Ukraine in general but today seems like a particularly bad day.
Single glazing shares down / popcorn shares up.
Would Moscow even have much to defend itself? All the big weaponry is down south. Their military parade was a shambles with 1 tank and the Airforce doesn't seem to be too interested in stopping the convoy.
I heard Zelensky's gonna be addressing a special sitting at the UN later, calling for emergency supplies of popcorn.
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